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France to quit making cigarettes as last factory prepares to close The last remaining factory making cigarettes in France is set to close by the end of 2023, the site's owner told its employees this week.

Issued on: 01/10/2023 - 09:08

The Manufacture Corse des Tabacs (Macotab), on the Mediterranean island of Corsica, is the last to manufacture cigarettes in France since the closure of another in the centre of the country in 2016.

Around 30 employees work at the Corsican site, down from 143 in the early 1980s.

The factory makes cigarettes on behalf of industry giant Philip Morris, which recently signalled it was ending the contract.

Contraband packets have also cut into legal sales, according to the factory's owner Seita, the former French state-owned tobacco monopoly that is now part of the British company Imperial Tobacco.

Seita had already closed France's last tobacco processing factory in 2019, in the traditional growing region of the Dordogne in the south-west.

Some former factories in Marseille and Lyon have found new as cultural and exhibition spaces, or even a university.

Kicking the habit Efforts by authorities to curb smoking and its health hazards, not least by prohibiting puffing in restaurants and cafes and banning ads for cigarettes, have prompted sharp reductions in cigarette sales in recent years.

Smoking remains the main cause of avoidable deaths in France, according to Santé Publique France health agency, which estimates 75,000 tobacco deaths each year.

The bulk of European production these days is in Germany and Poland.

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[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 179 points 1 year ago (10 children)

What the FUCK is a French man supposed to do after sex now?

[–] AJB_l4u@lemm.ee 78 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] jumperalex@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's "more of zee sex" to you buddy

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, hon hon, oui monsieur.

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[–] MTLion3@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Always the answer

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[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You act like wine and a baguette isn't already at their bedside

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except the baguette is all wet now, I don’t want to eat it

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[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Crème the brûlée?

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Buy Italian cigarettes?

[–] Ataraxia@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

Roll a doob.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Hit a fat cloud on his vape

[–] Bigmouse@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Close the grave again.

[–] MrMukagee@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 year ago

Doggy style?

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Wait, my vision of a man wearing a striped shirt and a beret smoking a cigarette is not actually what French people are like?

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 107 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not anymore. It's all changing for the worse. I hear they're coming after the baguettes next. The mimes are speechless.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 25 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No no that's still accurate, it's just that the cigarettes are imported now.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

How can they truly be French and not smoke Gauloises I ask you?

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[–] jumperalex@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Jokes aside, I swear they really do walk around with baguettes in hand. 3 days in Paris, sitting at multiple cafes, and we saw it in the morning, at lunch, in the evening. Men, Women, Children, well dressed, poorly dressed (for a Parisian), black, white, brown, blue, green, every combination in between, we'd see someone walking around with baguettes. I've lived in multiple cities and visited even more in the US and Europe. Never have I seen so many people walking around with bread!

[–] 1bluepixel@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People eat bread and pick it up from their local bakery then walk home with it instead of stuffing it in the trunk of their SUV to drive two blocks. What do you expect.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's because fresh baguettes are damn hard to beat.

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[–] spez@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Yes monsieur.

[–] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 7 points 1 year ago

Well you still have 50% of the adult population regularly smoking so nothing change on this part.

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[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 59 points 1 year ago (47 children)

Kicking the habit Efforts by authorities to curb smoking and its health hazards, not least by prohibiting puffing in restaurants and cafes and banning ads for cigarettes, have prompted sharp reductions in cigarette sales in recent years.

While I support bans in restaurants and cafes, I don't support prohibition, which is what a lot of Western nations are aiming at. We learned our lesson during the alcohol prohibition years in America, and for the last 70 years around the world with marijuana prohibition. The social effects are far worse when forcing recreational drugs underground. Educate support addiction programs, but don't ban.

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ban use in public in general. I don't want to be forced to walk through a cloud of cigarette smoke in front of a train station or waiting at a traffic light any more than in a restaurant. People can do what they want at home but constantly having to deal with drug addicts polluting the air around me shouldn't be accepted.

[–] crypticthree@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't need a cigarette to get to work or the grocery store.

Congratulations on discovering false equivalency.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Neither do you need a car in a well planned city.

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cool, I don't live in a well planned city and I would have to immigrate out of the country to do so, or wait likely decades for reforms to make their way here. In the mean time, I'll still need a car. I don't need to smoke a cig in public.

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[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

I would need to drive to move to a different city. Checkmate.

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[–] Twentytwodividedby7@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Europe is working on it. They will ban the sale of new gas powered vehicles by 2035

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We learned our lesson during the alcohol prohibition years in America.

We're not America and we're not banning alcohol, nor are we banning the drug in tobacco that people smoke it for.

So it is an entirely different scenario to either American prohibition or to cannabis.

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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Yep, all the while alcoholism is at all time highs, so much so that they had to rebrand it as social drinking. Alcohol, still allowed to advertise every where, and can sell fruit flavors, but tobacco...nope. Tobacco should be left alone at this point. The majority of people don't smoke, like like 7% in the USA, this includes all tobacco users. Prohibition just creates blackmarkets and death.

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Alcohol, still allowed to advertise every where, and can sell fruit flavors, but tobacco…nope.

Tell that to the vape industry. Nothing more disgusting than walking through a cloud of shit that smells like cotton candy.

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[–] MrMukagee@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I agree ... Prohibition doesn't work.

But making it very difficult and expensive to maintain an addictive habit would much better.

The same would go for alcohol. If alcohol was more regulated, more controlled, not sold in public houses or businesses (including bars) and the price increased, taxed more with taxes going towards addiction treatment, education and medical assistance for those affected by alcohol .... less people would drink alcohol.

If you have a culture where you freely allow businesses to promote, sell and provide an addictive substance that provides little to no health benefit .... especially if it makes high profits ... companies will want to encourage a culture of making their substance widely acceptable.

Alcohol looks acceptable because it's promoted, advertised and normalized everywhere. If it weren't, less people would be drinking.

Advertising of smoking is highly regulated and discouraged now ... smoking is no longer normalized ... which is why people smoke less.

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[–] AJB_l4u@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i will be a cigarette smuggler in this modern age

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[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (32 children)

If tobacco/nicotine itself isn't banned then this could potentially get a lot of chainsmokers to switch to a relatively healthier form of smoking like dry herb vaporizers.

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ironic that back in the 50s physicians used to prescribe smoking as a health benefit! 🙄🤣

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

*Actors acting as physicians on television

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[–] Zstom6IP@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Ironic, isnt it?

[–] stown@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't most French smokers roll their own?

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