I have a Seagate Expansion Portable HDD, which I want to check the SMART status of^[Why? For FUN of course!]

I looked at a comment for a WD HDD, which made me look into man smartctl -> /--device after having the message from smartctl -a <dev/path> having:

Read Device Identity failed: scsi error unsupported field in scsi command

If this is a USB connected device, look at the various --device=TYPE variants

Now the manual lists many different possible device types and I am yet, unable to find the correct one. Any ideas would be appreciated.

I tried simply searching for "seagate" in man smartctl, but there was no match in the --device section.

I am currently trying to look for a way to get information on what USB to SATA adapter is being used (hopefully without having to open it up)

Some additional info:

lsusb -v ...

Bus 00* Device 00*: ID 0bc2:231a Seagate RSS LLC Expansion Portable
Negotiated speed: SuperSpeed (5Gbps)
Device Descriptor:
  bLength                18
  bDescriptorType         1
  bcdUSB               3.00
  bDeviceClass            0 [unknown]
  bDeviceSubClass         0 [unknown]
  bDeviceProtocol         0 
  bMaxPacketSize0         9
  idVendor           0x0bc2 Seagate RSS LLC
  idProduct          0x231a Expansion Portable
  bcdDevice            7.10
  iManufacturer           1 Seagate
  iProduct                2 Expansion
  iSerial                 3 NAA*****
  bNumConfigurations      1
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength       0x0079
    bNumInterfaces          1
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          0 
    bmAttributes         0x80
      (Bus Powered)
    MaxPower              896mA
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           2
      bInterfaceClass         8 Mass Storage
      bInterfaceSubClass      6 SCSI
      bInterfaceProtocol     80 Bulk-Only
      iInterface              0 
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0400  1x 1024 bytes
        bInterval               0
        bMaxBurst              15
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x02  EP 2 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0400  1x 1024 bytes
        bInterval               0
        bMaxBurst              15
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       1
      bNumEndpoints           4
      bInterfaceClass         8 Mass Storage
      bInterfaceSubClass      6 SCSI
      bInterfaceProtocol     98 
      iInterface              0 
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x01  EP 1 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0400  1x 1024 bytes
        bInterval               0
        bMaxBurst               0
        Command pipe (0x01)
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x82  EP 2 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0400  1x 1024 bytes
        bInterval               0
        bMaxBurst               0
        MaxStreams             32
        Status pipe (0x02)
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x83  EP 3 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0400  1x 1024 bytes
        bInterval               0
        bMaxBurst              15
        MaxStreams             32
        Data-in pipe (0x03)
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x04  EP 4 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0400  1x 1024 bytes
        bInterval               0
        bMaxBurst               7
        MaxStreams             32
        Data-out pipe (0x04)
Binary Object Store Descriptor:
  bLength                 5
  bDescriptorType        15
  wTotalLength       0x0016
  bNumDeviceCaps          2
  USB 2.0 Extension Device Capability:
    bLength                 7
    bDescriptorType        16
    bDevCapabilityType      2
    bmAttributes   0x00000f0e
      BESL Link Power Management (LPM) Supported
    BESL value     3840 us 
  SuperSpeed USB Device Capability:
    bLength                10
    bDescriptorType        16
    bDevCapabilityType      3
    bmAttributes         0x00
    wSpeedsSupported   0x000e
      Device can operate at Full Speed (12Mbps)
      Device can operate at High Speed (480Mbps)
      Device can operate at SuperSpeed (5Gbps)
    bFunctionalitySupport   1
      Lowest fully-functional device speed is Full Speed (12Mbps)
    bU1DevExitLat          10 micro seconds
    bU2DevExitLat          32 micro seconds
Device Status:     0x0000
  (Bus Powered)

Hey!

TL;DR: "Newer CPUs -> more power -> more fan noise?" Or does it make sense to buy newest generation CPUs if I really care about quiet fans?

As an Apple user for over a decade I also haven't really looked at hardware for years so I hope this is not a dumb question.

I'm looking at laptops (preferably AMD, I guess?) right now, and I'm wondering if the extra price for this years hardware (for example the Ryzen AI CPUs or Intels Lunar Lake) is worth it, when my main "want" is quiet fans?

I mean, of course I care about battery and actual processing power, but as I use my laptop for work and private stuff, the fan noise is more important to me than the other two.

Reason: I work with patients in a very quiet environment, so it's annoying when the notebook's fans get extremely loud and then quiet again at irregular intervals.

I know nothing will ever be as quiet as my M1 Macbook Air, but I'm not expecting that.

In my work use, I'm mostly typing. Sometime I might be showing my patients a video or use the notebook to record certain exercises, so I don't think that's heavy use.

My private use is mostly Browser, Streaming, text processing. (I try to stick to the Steam Deck when it comes to gaming)

If you do have a laptop recommendation I'm happy to hear it, of course, but I'm probably going to stick to the tried and tested Dell / HP / Thinkpad recommendations that you see on every Reddit thread. (I sadly had a not-so-good experience with Tuxedo, although I would have loved to support a company like that.)

Thanks!

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26909445

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/25606049

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