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Hey Fediverse,

We've been working on something cool and wanted to share it with you. It's a new project called Lemmy.link, and it's all about making RSS feeds more accessible and useful on Lemmy.

We've noticed there's been a lot of talk in various communities about people shifting back to traditional RSS aggregators like Feedly, TT-RSS, and Newsblur. It got us thinking: why not bring those RSS feeds directly to Lemmy instead?

That's how Lemmy.link came to life. Right now, we have 10 communities collecting from over 30 RSS feeds, covering topics from World News and Technology to Business, plus some popular YouTube communities like News, Technology, and Explainers.

But we're just getting started, and this is where you come in. We'd love your ideas for new communities or RSS feeds to include. There's just one thing - to keep things running smoothly, we're focusing on shared interests and staying away from personal communities with custom feeds.

Also, please note, for now, lemmy.link is closed for signups. You'll need to subscribe from your current Lemmy/Kbin instance. Once we've incorporated the upcoming 0.18.1 captcha update, we'll take a fresh look at this.

So, take a tour of Lemmy.link and let us know what you think. We believe there's huge potential for this project in the Fediverse and your input is a big part of that. Please provide any feedback on !meta@lemmy.link

Thanks for reading, and we hope you enjoy what we've built so far with Lemmy.link.

-- Notorious

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Like many others, I've been wondering "Hmm, where the heck do I get all the cute animal pictures now?"
...but the answer to that question was staring me right in the face.
I'd just do what I've always done if I want cute animal pictures.
I mean, Pinterest is right there.
Reject subredditery, embrace tradition.

#RedditMigration

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A comprehensive mapping of old subreddits to new communities.

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Does it matter which lemmy server I join?

and if yes, what are some trusted and good servers?

#RedditMigration

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In that situation, I believe a contractor could put a lien on the property until they receive their agreed upon compensation.

I've been wondering about my work on Reddit. I've spent countless hours on graphics and CSS, and configuring automod. I have quite a few tiny subs and got a notice to "open up or else" on one of them.

From what I'm hearing, the admins can restore posts, but can they restore all the graphics and coding? And wouldn't that belong to the creator? Would a lien or some kind of copyright exist for all of that?

#RedditMigration

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I'm considering rewriting all of my comments, but I want to do this carefully and correctly because I'd eventually want to delete the account, so I wouldn't be able to make changes

I want to keep it short and sweet, but be informative, make very good points, and hopefully persuade any user to try out the fediverse

What did you guys change yours to? I'm thinking something along the lines of this:

This comment has been rewritten so that its' content is removed. On May 31, 2023, Reddit announced they were raising the price to make calls to their API from being free to a level that will kill every third party app on Reddit. This hurts many types of users, and the way that the CEO has handled the situation is not right at all. Reddit is another victim of pure corporate greed.

Some may not consider this important to them, but for anyone who sees this, I strongly encourage you to join the fediverse. It will be confusing at first, but it is very welcoming :) Alternative platforms:

I feel like it's too wordy (I tend to ramble). I'm trying to find compact "elegantly worded" reasons about what's going on and why it's wrong, with links of good posts, but a lot of that is on reddit. Can you guys help a bro out?

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U/darkdemon42 Architect of r/evilgenius vents when admins coerce him into reopening the sub.

“Imagine a billionaire asked you to build the new swimming pool in his summer house. He promised that you if you did a really good job, he’d let you swim in it for free. That’s sounds like a great deal, only you have no idea how to build a swimming pool. So you spend years figuring it out. You learn what you can, and get tradies in to fill in the gaps. Then, after nine long years of work the homeowner comes to you and says that he’s actually going to sell the summer house, and that deal where you can use the pool? Yeah not any more. But the new owners might let you look at it! Through the fence. Oh and also he doesn’t like the tradies, so they’re going to need to go. But it’s alright, because his trust fund nepo kid is going to help instead.

You can either take it with a shit eating grin and get it finished, or you can say “fuck you”, and punch a hole in the wall of the pool, preventing the arsehole from profting off all your work. Which would you choose?”

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I think most of us who moved here from Reddit are enjoying our time here on kbin.social. We've left a lot of the riff-raff behind us and made new friends with intelligent, thoughtful members of kbin, Lemmy, Mastodon, etc..

But we need to spread out.

Not only have we stressed the server with thousands of immigrating users, but we were being watched by darker forces, namely Meta and Instagram.

A quick search of the net will show that we were not the first mass-migration. The first migration was last year when people from 'the bird site' (rhymes with jitter) fled Elon Musk's new regime. Most of those people moved to Mastodon.

We largely moved to kbin. Kbin.social to be more exact.

I'm a member of both Mastodon and kbin, and a couple of posts shocked me. The first one about Meta I have found again:

https://mastodon.social/@gnarkotics/110568580882355105

The second one about Instagram I have failed to locate, but the gist was that Instagram had reached out to one of the larger Fediverse servers and asked the person who runs to have a meeting 'off the record'. That person turned them down and told other members of the Fediverse what happened. The general consensus is that this was going to be a monetary offer to allow Instagram to further colonize the Fediverse by purchasing one of the larger servers.

And therein lies the problem: if the majority of users gravitate to a few large servers, then that leaves those larger servers vulnerable to exploitation.

I, as a recent immigrant, did not understand this. I thought that, intuitively, we should all gather in one place and grow the server. It's the exact opposite. We need to spread out to smaller instances. This didn't really register with me until I spoke with this person.

https://fedi.getimiskon.xyz/objects/77a0f3cd-6f31-42f7-a3ea-29af8b25c0b3

Remember too that having an account on a smaller instance still allows us to see everything on kbin.social. For example, look at this:

https://kbin.social

We are looking at a mixture of posts from Lemmy and kbin.

Moving to a smaller instance does not limit your interactions. What damages the fediverse is people trying to recreate all of Reddit on one instance.

TLDR: If you like it here, the best thing you can do for the fediverse right now is to set up on one of the less populous instances.

I invite correction and clarifications.

EDIT: Adding further sources below.

Meta/Facebook is inviting Fediverse admins under NDA for “meetings” (mstdn.social)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36384207

Facebook, Inc. is planning to join the Fediverse. How do we make it lose as much money as possible?
https://www.loomio.com/d/QoH98Gg6/facebook-inc-is-planning-to-join-the-fediverse-how-do-we-make-it-lose-as-much-money-as-possible

Beware Of Meta Offering Gifts To Mastodon
https://medium.com/nextwithtech/beware-of-meta-offering-gifts-to-mastodon-6adb317e039d

Meta vs Mastodon: Battle for the Future of Decentralized Social Media
https://marketingnewscanada.com/news/meta-vs-mastodon-battle-for-the-future-of-decentralized-social-media

Legal-Copyright discussion from Mastodon yesterday
ttps://mas.to/@franktaber/110602489997086618

And a cartoon to boot

https://cutie.city/@nuz/110602855304673785

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Seeing a lot of hate and schadenfreude over spez and what he's doing with Reddit.

I feel this is really uncalled for.

What no one seems to understand is that Reddit is unprofitable.

You know what happens to unprofitable tech companies? Think of Geocities shutting down. How many great websites, how many communities were lost?

I can see that spez is trying the best he can to save Reddit. He was one of the original founders. This is his baby. He doesn't want to see it die.

His plan is clear to me.

Reddit is getting too much traffic. It's too big and has too many users, moderators, and communities.

So this means Reddit needs a lot of employees. Someone asked why Reddit needs 2000 employees? Well, where do you think the admins come from? I bet most of them are the hardworking admins who form the bridge between Reddit and the communities.

Since Reddit is so big, perhaps too big, it's hard for them to be profitable. Opportunity cost on users using third party apps means that Reddit has to charge them high prices to make up for lost ads revenue. That's unavoidable.

Okay, sure, maybe some third party apps will agree to run ads in return for lower rates or something. That can work.

Reddit doesn't have an existing way to feed ads to third party apps. I'm don't have experience in that field but I bet developing something like that takes a lot of time. It's also uncertain as Reddit may spend many long months, if not years, developing a way to serve ads to third party apps only to find no takers. Too big a risk.

Remember, the IPO is supposed to happen later this year. Not enough time to develop it and do it right.

So he has no choice but to go in hard against the third party apps. They pay up and make up the cost. If they can't, then they die. Sucks to be them. Their users go to the official app, and get the ads from Reddit. Revenue is saved.

Maybe they don't. Maybe those users quit Reddit altogether. This means less traffic, so fewer expenses for Reddit. Less expenses meas more revenue. Revenue is saved again.

Moderators quit? No problem. Reddit will find new ones or replace them with admins.

Not enough moderators? No problem. Reddit can shutdown the smallest communities that bring in the least revenue. Admins can run the biggest ones.

Section 230? No problem. Reddit adds a new review required mode. Maybe this already exists. Every thread posted is hidden until an admin reviews and approves it. Same for every comment on a thread. This way they can make sure there is no libel or copyright infringement or any other issues before approving.

Need too many admins to review and approve things timely? No problem. Charge users to be able to jump the queue. Those who do not want to pay up then just need to suffer wait times of many months or even years before they can get reviewed and approved.

Less traffic means they need fewer admins. Fewer employees. More layoffs. A more profitable Reddit.

It absolutely sucks that the moderation tools are not ready yet and moderators have to suffer. It sucks worse that those with accessibility needs have fewer options now.

Would it not be worse if Reddit dies altogether? Think about losing those communities. You can't talk to the folks you used to in your subreddits. You have no way to go back and see your own threads, or the useful advice from fellow members of your community. It's all gone.

I have already been through this several times. It hurt to lose Geocities. All MySpace content also gone.

Do YOU want to be responsible for this happening again?!!!

Please do not let this happen again. Please help spez save Reddit.

Give Reddit time. Let spez save Reddit and turn it into a money-maker. Once he does this and Reddit is no longer in danger of being shut down for being unprofitable, then Reddit will have breathing room to solve these issues. A profitable Reddit with a successful IPO will have more cash to spend on recreating the lost moderator tools and accessibility features from third party apps.

FIrst Reddit must manage to survive.

Because Reddit is on it's death throws now.

Because there's no way spez would destroy the trust he's built with the Reddit communities. Unless it is the only way to save the soul of Reddit.

This is why Reddit and spez must win.

P.S. Reddit and spez winning does not mean that we have to lose. If Reddit wins and becomes profitable then the communities are saved. There will be no Geocities or MySpace loss. At the same time a lot of moderators and users who are upset at being monetized will come here. Our communities here will be enriched by this and will continue to grow and blossom. Everybody wins! We can all be winners here!

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After deleting my account, which was permabanned, on old dot reddit dot com it still shows up with the user suspended message.

On regular reddit dot com on a desktop browser, it instead shows up as blocked. I can continue to view the profile, but then it just says something went wrong and no content shows up. (Because it's not there, it was deleted!)

Great job reddit, you can't even handle deleted accounts properly!

A sort of follow-up to https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/85486/Permaban-roll-call

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So now I float around the web more than a little lost. I have found Beehaw.org, are there any other sites to hang out? (Arts, Creativity, Writing, Pets animals, Design .... fountainpens... journaling?

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I stopped using it around when the blackouts started, now it's gone. Is there a way to get them to delete all my data after having my account deleted or did I have to do that before deleting my account

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u/Awkwardtheturtle somehow posting an update on her reddit ban ... on reddit itself if i'm reading the pic correctly. Not sure how that's possible, maybe someone saw an edited post from her?

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On a whim I decided to give the official app a try because a lot of people will be forced to use it, if they decide to stay on Reddit.

Holy hell, it's just slow. Can't scroll through a subreddit without annoying hitches and stutters. Comments aren't any better also.

On the other hand, Sync is just fucking gorgeous and runs immensely better than the encumbered official app.

How can apps made by small teams or even a single person be better optimized than one supposedly made by a larger team with a larger development budget?

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For those who want to permanently migrate from Reddit I have created two communities that I will miss a lot starting June 30th: bearapp thingsapp Anyone who wants to help as a moderator is welcome!

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After two weeks I visited reddit again. Holy shit the misogyny and lack of critical thinking in the comments is something else.
Eternal summer over there

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Little stuff like this is how we're going to get the Fediverse from 0 to 1.

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I wrote a quick manual for some friends trying to leave reddit and get their saved stuff, maybe it'll help someone else as well. Feel free to point out any mistakes, I'm by no means an expert.

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The bad, although expected news is that according to Similarweb via Gizmodo Reddit traffic is back to pre-protest levels. The caveat is that some of the traffic might still indicate protests, (i.e. John Oliver pics). Most interesting:

However, Similarweb told Gizmodo traffic to the ads.reddit.com portal, where advertisers can buy ads and measure their impact, has dipped. Before the first blackout began, the ads site averaged about 14,900 visits per day. Beginning on June 13, though, the ads site averaged about 11,800 visits per day, a 20% decrease.

For June 20 and 21, the most recent days for which Similarweb has estimates, the ads site got in the range of 7,500 to 9,000 visits, Carr explained, meaning that ad-buying traffic has continued to drop.>>>

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I'm sure many of us have had the problem of getting a link to a Lemmy/Kbin instance that isn't your own. But you want to subscribe to a magazine.

I created this JS bookmarklet (well no, GPT4 made it. But I helped xd)

If you are on the magazine's feed, click the JS bookmarklet and you'll be taken to your Lemmy/Kbin instance with that feeds url.

Step 1: create the JS bookmarklet by creating a new bookmark manually. You can name it whatever, but make sure that the url field is this entire section:

javascript:(function(){let prefix='https://kbin.social/m/';let url=window.location.href;let parts=url.split('/');let finalPart=parts[parts.length-1];let host=parts[2];let newURL=prefix+finalPart+'@'+host;window.open(newURL,'_blank');})();

(Github Gist)

Step 2: modify the 'prefix' to be whatever it is that your instance puts in front of a federated magazine.

With Kbin this is usually the url of your instance /m

With Lemmy it's the same but with /c

Step 3: Profit. Now you can visit a magazine from a different instance, click on the js bookmarklet and it should open a new tab where you can see the magazine in your own instance. And easily upvote/downvote or subscribe to it.

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Fuck /u/spez and all of that. It would be my 13th cake-day on July 7th 💩and I won't be on Reddit to celebrate because the account will have been shredded and deleted.

I'm glad we finally have an alternative (seemingly)decided on. I guess there isn't much else to talk about until 7/1 when a lot of blissfully ignorant reddit users realize they can't post anymore on their favorite app, when I think we'll see the biggest surge of new users. It feels as though the lack of conversation and "low" userbase - compared to reddit, is prompting users to ask if they made the right choice...

"Are there any Reddit refugees spending more time on >Lemmy than Reddit?"

"POLL - Will you stay on lemmy?"

"let’s cut the “Reddit” circle jerk and start actually making >content"

It's too early for those questions and of course people are going to be talking about Reddit, it's our old home. I was a user on Digg before Reddit, the big difference was that Digg V4 blindsided us, we knew a change was coming but had no idea it would be that bad. /u/spez was so nice as to tell us we were fucked a month or so in advance.

The point is, chill out, explore this community and others if you're inclined and don't stress, the rest will follow along in time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA8z7f7a2Pk

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I have tons of saved posts, some of which I've saved for the link, some for the actual post and some for the discussion in it that I'd love to somehow save locally. Often I'd just 'print to pdf' but going through hundreds of posts and comments manually is a bit much and most of all, very time consuming. There must be some kind of a way to do this surely?

Please help me save my stuff!

Edit: also a way to save a complete wiki with all linked posts and other links would be great too. This shit is taking ages manually.

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Kbin: covering all the current news and rumours out of Russia about Wagner, a possible coup, etc. Reddit: crickets Make of it what you will. 🤷‍♀️

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