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Why should we be thinking this is ok? I am definitely not, for one it is appalling to hide this from the world and it is completely morally wrong on a scale that is hard to imagine.

I am tired of seeing those in positions of power get away with so many things the list is staggering, can we just have justice this once over something so important?

We all know Epstein and the many people close to him whom will probably never face anything unfortunately, couple that with the many others of the 20th century getting away with so many things. I would like to see this issue be properly addressed in full legal capacity!

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A few weeks ago, after months of research and realizing that George H. W. Bush's name kept popping up in the lore of UFO history, and in light of the remark by David Grusch that Dick Cheney sits at the top of the UFO/UAP cabal of secrecy, I decided to dig in and get everything down.

It ended up being a much wilder ride than expected. H. W.'s father Prescott Bush and father-in-law Herbert Walker, who George was named after, were highly involved with 1920s/30s Wall Street, an attempted fascistic takeover of the US in 1933 named the Business Plot in which they sought to usurp the newly-elected FDR. Then this same group funded the Nazis and created a new bank for doing so, were in charge of putting together the OSS, which helped the US navigate WWII and dictate the terms that ended the war, all the while securing the capture of the Magenta, Italy 1933 UFO/UAP crash-retrieval. Then, post-Roswell, they went on to help form the CIA and used to it as to both hide recovered exotic technology while also building their wealth via Big Oil and using the agency to commit coups across the world. One small group of mostly rich, White, elite men from the notorious Skull and Bones secret society at Yale, a future primary recruiter for the CIA at the behest of alma mater Prescott Bush, went on to effectively run the world, and into the ground, at that.

You can read the first eight parts here:

Part 1:

Part 2:

Part 3:

Part 4:

Part 5:

Part 6:

Part 7:

Part 8:

Part 9:


So, in light of the news last week via journalist Michael Shellenberger of the UFO/UAP umbrella program Immaculate Constellation, run out of the office of the Secretary of Defense, it's time to look back on that office in particular and some of the other folks in its orbit.

Here's a short piece by NewsNation with Ross Coulthart on the revelations of the program:

Here's the full interview of Michael Shellenberger by Ross Coulthart on the program:

Here's Shellenberger's article on his Public Substack:


Been meaning to dig into this for a bit, and now we can focus in on James Forrestal, the first Secretary of Defense, who was given that position post-Roswell when the Department of Defense, the Air Force, the NSA, the CIA, and others were created.

Like Allen Dulles and "Wild" Bill Donovan who formed the OSS and later the CIA, Forrestal came from the world of Wall Street. In 1940, while Dulles and Donovan were putting together the OSS leading up to the US entering WWII in 1942, Forrestal was appointed Undersecretary of the Navy.

James Vincent Forrestal (February 15, 1892 – May 22, 1949) was the last Cabinet-level United States Secretary of the Navy and the first United States Secretary of Defense.[\1])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal#cite_note-Historical_Office_James_V._Forrestal-1)

Forrestal came from a very strict middle-class Irish Catholic family. He was a successful financier on Wall Street before becoming Undersecretary of the Navy in 1940, shortly before the United States entered the Second World War. He became Secretary of the Navy in May 1944 upon the death of his superior, Col. Frank Knox. President Franklin D. Roosevelt requested that Forrestal take the lead in building up the Navy. In 1947, after the end of the war, President Harry S. Truman appointed him the first secretary of the newly created Department of Defense. Forrestal was intensely hostile to the Soviet Union, fearing Communist expansion in Europe and the Middle East. Along with Secretary of State George C. Marshall, he strongly opposed the United States' support for the establishment of the State of Israel, fearing that this would alienate Arab nations which were needed as allies, and whose petroleum reserves were vital for both military and civilian industrial expansion.

Forrestal was a supporter of naval battle groups centered on aircraft carriers. He tried to weaken the proposed Department of Defense for the Navy's benefit, but was hard-pressed to run it from 1947 to 1949 after Truman named him Secretary of Defense. The two men were often at odds, and Truman forced Forrestal's resignation.

Thereafter, Forrestal's mental health rapidly deteriorated, declining to the point in which he underwent medical care for depression. While a patient at Bethesda Naval Hospital, Forrestal died by suicide from fatal injuries sustained after falling out of a sixteenth-floor window.

In 1954, the USN's new supercarrier was named USS Forrestal in his honor, as is the James V. Forrestal Building, which houses the headquarters of the United States Department of Energy. He is the namesake of the Forrestal Lecture Series at the United States Naval Academy and of the James Forrestal Campus of his alma mater Princeton University.

He became a partner in 1923, was appointed vice president in 1926, and by 1937 was president of the company. He also acted as a publicist for the Democratic Party committee in Dutchess County, New York, helping politicians from the area win elections at both the local and state level. One of the individuals aided by his work was a neighbor, Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Forrestal was a compulsive workaholic and skilled administrator. He was described as pugnacious, introspective, shy, philosophic, solitary, and emotionally insecure.[\3])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal#cite_note-DictAmBio-3)[\7])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal#cite_note-7)[\8])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal#cite_note-8) He took no part in national politics, though he usually voted for Democrats, but did not support New Deal liberalism.[\9])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal#cite_note-9)

So he was in the good graces of FDR and then given a high governmental role, (his first!) in 1940. Then he was appointed Secretary of the Navy in May 1944, around the time the US was recovering the Magenta UFO in Italy. Truman was well-aware of Magenta and prior US UFO crash-retrievals as well as Roswe...


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Original Title: Sheehan: we have to mobilize now to prepare for the extraterrestrial intervention thats about to take place. Its rare for a planet to gestate life, and they wont allow our species to destroy it. Elizondo: "time is a luxury we cant afford"


Ive been out of the loop a bit, so i just want some opinions on these things that were said recently.

Heres the video (timestamp 43:40)

Some quotes about the "life gestating capacity of earth":

Sheehan: I have talked face to face with individuals who've been present while the ET beings are being interviewed. In the interviews the ET beings acknowledged that they're extraordinarily concerned about the fact that our species has developed thermonuclear weapons. That we're on the brink of having a thermonuclear war which threatens the life generating capacity of our planet.

That among all the tens of billions of of planets that are in our galaxy it's a comparatively rare event to have one of these planets that actually gestates life. Obviously there are others than our Earth that have gestated these other species okay, but the fact is this is a comparatively rare phenomenon in the galaxy. And therefore they they cannot allow just one species that has evolved on this very special planet to destroy the life generating capacity of it.

Some quotes about the coming ET intervention:

Sheehan: We have to work together to be able to maintain as much agency and sovereignty as we can possibly legitimately maintain in the face of the revelation of the existence of this extraterrestrial civilization. The fact of the matter is they seem to be preparing to potentially intervene directly to stop the thermonuclear war and to stop the total devastation of our ecological systems on our planet okay

That means that the intervention is going to reveal their presence and that's what's motivating a significant number of people in the Pentagon right now to be coming forward, trying to establish a systematic process for a controlled disclosure about their presence.

... what's going to happen is, when the intervention takes place on the part of the Extraterrestrial civilization, its going to be totally disruptive, that people are not prepared for it, that they haven't prepared how to respond to it economically, politically, geopolitically, religiously and theologically.

You know and philosophically this is something that needs to be done at the academic level of all of these departments. We have to mobilize now and start to prepare our people for this intervention thats getting ready to take place. We want this to be as amicable as possible, we want to get on famously with the Extraterrestrial civilization, we don't want to lose our sovereignty, we want to be able to maintain as much self-governance and control as we can on our planet.

I wonder if this is connected to Elizondo's "imminent". Elizondo is the client of Sheehan, so they may have discussed these things. In fact in above quote Sheehan says this coming intervention is the motivation why people from the pentagon are coming forward. Heres a quote from an interview with Elizondo:

Video (timestamp 2:03:10):

Jesse Michels: I'm not going to lie... when I spend time with you, and we've spent a decent amount of time together, I get the sense that you're sitting on things that feel like very hard truths. It feels like your uh, existence, like you want to say more, and you feel like you're holding it together, and that's a tough spot to be in, and so to the extent you can talk about it, what might be imminent? What is imminent?

Elizondo: time is not a luxury that we can afford

So whats the opinion of you guys here? Is this the basic story of whats been going on? That god has sent this hierarchy of different ET species here to preserve the life giving capacity of earth, that they've been warning us and creating hybrids for some sort of intervention?

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Scott Roder is a distinguished professional in the field of crime scene reconstruction, with a proven track record of expertise and achievement.

With an extensive background in forensic science and crime scene investigation, Roder has dedicated his career to unraveling the complex narratives hidden within crime scenes.

Throughout his career, Scott has played a pivotal role in numerous high-profile cases, including the murder trial of Derek Chauvin and the case surrounding Oscar Pistorius.

Feel free to ask any questions you may have, I'll do my best to answer them as I worked alongside Mr. Roder on this case...

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I have no idea if this is allowed but I still thought it would be a fun way to get the community involved if anyone is interested.

I’m a Huntsville based journalist. In 2023 I was lucky enough to befriend and eventually interview the son of Dr. Ning Li. For those not familiar, Dr. Li was a Chinese scientist who immigrated to the states and eventually worked with NASA and UAH in Huntsville, AL and became decently famous and somewhat controversial for a series of papers she co-authored from 1991 – 1993.

In her work, Li described a practical method of producing an anti-gravity field, which had never been done before. She received a lot of attention which seemed mostly positive due to her reputation.

Shortly after leaving the University to start her own company to expand on this research, she very suddenly drops out of the public eye and never returns. Never published again, no more public appearances at conferences like she did before, and many journalists were simply unable to contact her at all.

I approached this story in a general “local human interest” way for our readers in Huntsville, I didn’t know Joe Rogan and others would discuss it publicly and increase the exposure dramatically.

I say this because I make no attempt to say what came of her research or give my opinion on the manner because I don’t make a habit out of forming opinions on things I know nothing about. The goal was to A) clear her name of any and all traitorous accusations and B) share her story so more Huntsville citizens knew of her life and her contributions.

Here is the story:

And here is a slightly shorter post I made on the UnsolvedMysteries sub that goes over all of the same info for the most part.

My reason for writing this post is because I am set to interview her son again next week except this time it will be filmed. Since the story performed so well and had a big impact on George as well, I decided to finally go through with something I wanted to do forever but lacked the confidence, starting an Investigative Journalism focused YouTube Channel and producing videos to go along with these stories.

The video will hopefully accomplish a few things including:

A) Document how I learned about Dr. Li and my journey that lead to making George’s acquaintance and eventually earning his trust.

B) Recap all of general information contained in the original story, especially the information never shared before its publication. If someone finds the video with no prior knowledge of the subject matter, they won’t have to read the story before watching. It will be an alternate way of consuming the story.

C) Expand on the original story but documenting the response to it both in Huntsville and nationwide with stuff like Rogan’s discussion on it and etc.

D) Examine the personal impact it had on George who was able to clear his mother’s name of those who claimed she became a traitor to the USA and also shared the story of his amazingly talented mother with so many new people.

AND NOW THIS IS WHERE YOU GUYS COME IN!

Idk what % of people who visit this sub are familiar with Dr. Li now or were before the story but I know it’s at least a DECENTLY sized portion of the community. There are people here who have been sharing Dr. Li’s story for 15+ years and I want to know if there’s anything I failed to cover in the original story that you would like to see visited.

If something specific comes to your mind, leave a comment with the question As long as it’s not something brain dead like…

“Did your mom ever share top secret info with you and, if she did, will you now reveal that classified information and talk about her work with DoD,”

Then I will ask George and try to cover it in the follow up story. Also keep in mind that George also immigrated with his mother and English is his second language. Questions with overly complex wording or questions requiring large amounts of set up information will be more difficult.

I first learned about her form Barely Sociable and we have actually spoken on the phone 3-4 times now about various investigative related topics.

He will be providing some greatly appreciated help as I am still in the beginning stages of learning video editing and other YouTube skills.

I look forward to suggestions from those interested!

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In November of 2022 the then-VP of Growth for Enigma Labs, at that time a new startup, reached out to the moderators of r/UFOs via modmail. Their goal was to have an Enigma Labs sighting submission page linked in the r/UFOs subreddit sidebar. Since Enigma Labs was relatively unknown at the time, the mods requested more information about Enigma Labs. This led to Enigma Labs offering a walkthrough of their not-yet-public website, which required participating individuals to sign an NDA. This is standard for tech startups, the purpose of which is to prevent Intellectual Property from leaking to competition.

In January 2023, a few mods participated in a Zoom meeting in order to see a demo of Enigma Labs’ website. That website is now public, and no longer under NDA.

The mod team decided against including an Enigma Labs link in the sidebar due to unanswered questions about the transparency of the company, its funding sources, and whether sighting reports would remain proprietary or open-source.

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***long post warning, artistic impressions at the end***

I joined Reddit a couple of years ago just to talk to people about UFOs. I've had a lifelong interest in the UFO topic, but I did not see a UFO until I was in my mid-30s.

At the time of my sighting (2021), I had been sort of 'unplugged' from the UFO topic for several years, so I didn't report it to MUFON for almost nine months, simply because I'd forgotten that MUFON even existed.

However, I was following along as Tom DeLonge went on the JRE, then took the stage with Hal, Chris, and Lue to introduce TTSA, and I remember doing a double-take when I got the NYT alert on my phone in December 2017--knowing that the Times had never written a serious story about UFOs.

So, that's my definition of being unplugged from this topic. Still following the major stuff, but not doing active research or interacting with people about it.

You see, I used to be really into UFOs. I had the Internet very early, and much of what got posted to FTP servers and Angelfire websites back in the day was about UFOs. I wasn't yet a teen when the Phoenix Lights incident occurred, but I was already interested enough that I was legitimately devastated when I came back from a family trip and learned that the event occurred while we were out of town.

In the years following that event, cracks in that story (superficial though they may be) emerged. Living in the city and being UFO-curious, I was exposed to and watched a lot of witness interviews (all of whom, by the way, were standing outside at the time of the event).

It was remarkable how different their accounts were from one another. The big picture was the same, but there were serious discrepancies in the details - how far away it was, how large it was, how many lights there were, and--critically-whether you could see through the craft or whether it blocked out the starlight behind it.

Those who have studied the topic long enough know that almost every major sighting has holes like this, and almost every sighting you see posted on the Internet is either explainable or a hoax. The deeper you look, the less you find. If the Phoenix Lights wasn't a legitimate UFO event, it was hard to imagine what was.

Still, I followed along with interest. I couldn't help but feel that, if I'd had seen the Phoenix Lights, I would have been able to discern what it was and would already know the truth. The absence of any quality footage of that event was also a hint that perhaps obtaining it in the first place was not as simple as it seemed, eliminating a major argument of the skeptics.

In college, some friends and I had some vaguely paranormal/spiritual experiences, but I didn't associate that with UFOs and wasn't even familiar with the idea that there might be some connection.

I recall a friend, let's call him "Bruce," asking me, do you think this stuff could be related to UFOs? The question seemed out of left field. It would take almost 20 years to learn that the USS Princeton/Nimitz events were taking place at that very same time, not too far away.

About a year after college, Bruce and I were walking down the California coastline after a night of drinking when the sound of military helicopters came roaring up from behind us. Bruce pointed to an area over the water and yelled "Look! Those helicopters are going after a UFO!"

Indeed, a green orb seemed to be floating across the sky with 5 or 6 Apache-style helicopters chasing it. As we watched this cacophonous spectacle, I noticed the green orb was the same color as these green lights that all of the helicopters had on their tails.

Back at Bruce's apartment, I suggested that perhaps one of the helicopters had turned off all of its lights - save the green one - and flown ahead of the rest - making it appear as though they were chasing a green orb. I got the sense that Bruce accepted my prosaic explanation, but was disappointed. A pilot, he agreed that all of those aircraft should be equipped with red, green, and white lights.

That was not the sighting referenced in the title of this post. But that experience taught me something important: If you want to witness a UFO, you have to spend a lot of time outside.

Of course! It seemed so obvious, once you stop and think about it. You can't win if you don't play! The Phoenix Lights incident only became a mass sighting because a large number of people were outside to see the Hale-Bopp Comet approaching its perihelion. Those of us who spend most of their day indoors are not in the running. We don't even have a shot. But I wanted a shot.

That's when I made a decision. I would take long walks outside, when possible, as my way of getting regular exercise. The concept of low-intensity, high-duration aerobic exercise was already very popular, and I knew that I would be spending much of my waking life inside at a computer.

Did I take a long walk outside every day between then and my sighting? No. But in the 3 years leading up to my sighting, my walks became much more regular - several times per week on average.

In total, I estimate that I spent 600-700 hours walking outside before I saw something legitimate.

What's more, since my sighting (which MUFON closed as "unexplained"), my walks have become even more frequent, and while I've had a much more keen eye on the skies, I've yet to see anything else.

My walks had become more frequent -- not because I was increasingly interested in seeing a UFO due to the UAP Task Force and stories about AATIP, etc. -- but because I had moved to an area with a really cool lake, after briefly living in an area that was boring and very flat. So, I was kind of making up for lost time.

In fact, my interest in UFOs had waned further still. In law school, I began to suspect that the UFO topic was a tool of political manipulation. That was, admittedly, a convenient mindset to adopt. When you're married with kids, you don't really have time to read or talk to people about UFOs.

That is, unless you actually see one...

On the morning of my sighting, my mind was anywhere but UFOs. It was a week before an arbitration in which I had to defend a company and its owners against a million dollar fraud claim. My firm had been retained only a month earlier, and I'd just spent the last couple of weeks reviewing thousands of documents and a dozen deposition transcripts.

I had reserved the day of my sighting as Day 1 of 2 that I was going to spend writing the pre-trial brief. My mind filled with facts and arguments, I had not fallen asleep until after 2am. I woke up around 5:57am, before my alarm clock was set to ring. I didn't feel rested, but I was alert. I think I was somewhere in between REM cycles and I knew I wasn't going to fall back asleep.

Having put off my morning walk for longer than normal, I decided the best thing was to get an early start to the day and hit the streets.

I've estimated that I set foot outside at about 6:12am. It was early October, so sunrise was more than an hour away. The sky was perfectly clear, and I would later see that there was not a blip on the Doppler map for dozens of miles in any direction that morning. It was also near a new moon, so it was very dark.

I cut across my front yard and started walking along the sidewalk, heading slightly downhill. About 10-15 paces into my walk, I notice something to my left, in my periphery, like a twinkling star or a meteor.

I glanced up at it and saw that it was unusual enough to stop. Once my feet were planted, my body was fully still, and my eyes had focused directly on it, I detected that it was not moving, but totally stationary in the sky, not making any sound.

What I saw was a small glowing green orb inside of a larger, fuzzier reddish-orange orb. Initially, the green orb was about the size of Arcturus or Vega. It was distinct, and I believe what I was looking at was a metal craft, whose outer layer was in a plasma-like state and whose heat was so intense as to essentially boil the atmospheric gasses around it into a reddish-orange plasma. At its maximum size, the green part was about the size of Jupiter.

If you ever have such an experience, you'll learn that time slows down in this moment (I suspect due to adrenaline), giving you time to think many things. My first thought was now wait a minute, these are still just red and green lights. My next thought was that it might be a meteor coming directly towards me.

Over the next few seconds (as I was starting to assess what was going on), the green orb got brighter and brighter, which made it harder and harder to look at.

I'll be honest, in the moment, it kind of felt like this UFO was doing something to my eyes, like it was trying to divert my eyes from looking at it. But I think it was just very bright and uncomfortable to look at, sort of how you don't want to look directly at a clear or un-tinted Christmas tree bulb. Your brain will unconsciously try to make you avoid looking at it, and when you're in a state of hyperawareness, that makes your conscious mind feel like it is being controlled, because it is. Just one of those ways our brain plays tricks on us. It took me a while to piece this together, and I omitted this eye detail in storytelling until I figured it out.

Now, as the inside green light is getting brighter, the larger reddish-orange halo around it is getting larger too. The bigger it gets, the more detail I'm able to see. ...


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I heard that it was going to be released this month, and I've been eagerly waiting for it. It's frustrating to see that while this documentary, which promises to be insightful and well-researched, is struggling for visibility, other low-quality, random documentaries on similar topics seem to get more attention. I really hope that as the release date approaches, more people will realize the importance of this documentary, and it will get the visibility it truly deserves.

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New details have emerged regarding a mysterious object shot down over Yukon Territory in February 2023, with images obtained via a Canadian freedom of information request. Investigative reporter Daniel Otis revealed that pilots captured images of the object, described as metallic and cylindrical, before it was taken down.

In a recent conversation with The Debrief, Canadian MP Larry Maguire emphasized the need for greater transparency from the government regarding UAP incidents. He advocates for a structured approach to monitoring unidentified objects and calls for collaboration with agencies like NORAD to ensure public safety and understanding.

With growing public interest and speculation surrounding these phenomena, Maguire urges the Canadian government to be more proactive in addressing UAP investigations. He believes that enhancing transparency could help curb misinformation and foster trust.

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So with all the disclosures, congress hearings and whistleblowers, I do remain optimistic that we are going to have some acknowledgment to other entities if you will, but I can’t help but think what’s it all for? How will this really benefit us as a species? Is life as we know going to change for the greater, or are we going to have it gate kept by the higher ups and live out our life as nothing happened?

It’s an exciting time in this community! But I can’t help but think that even with all this, nothing is going to change…

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Original Title: If it’s a straight line of dots slowly moving across the sky, it’s Starlink. If it’s an x-shaped formation of flaring dots zooming quickly from/towards the horizon, it’s also Starlink. This has been happening for years now, it’s time we learn to recognize and stop posting them.

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