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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/Desertfox-190 on 2024-10-20 18:13:34+00:00.


Steve Rivers posted: “If there is truly an existential threat that’s imminent then humanitarian patriots “in the know” need to say f*ck classification and risk jail time in hopes of a presidential pardon.”

From what we’re seeing, those with the information like Lue,know a specific time period when the SHTF. If it’s based on science as we know it, it’s a confirmed event. An asteroid on a collision course. An inevitable micro-nova event based on the flaring activity of stars, interacting with dense dust formations further along the galactic plane than our sun is. A brown dwarf heading towards the Oort Cloud. Crustal displacement is real, and is confirmed to happen around a specific time. The pole-shift accelerates exponentially by year X, bombarding the surface with unfiltered cosmic rays.

Then comes the non-scientific causes. A warning given to our government of an upcoming intervention by a superior alien race. Project Stargate (part 2) remote viewers all getting the same visions simultaneously about the when, where, and how of “Event X”. Or, a totally unknown phenomena, be it spiritual, multi-dimensional, or otherwise, has been suddenly discovered, and calculated to affect all life by a certain date.

Regardless of the ultimate cause, it’s apparently catastrophic to humanity. Either physically, mentally, or both. The gatekeepers intention is to keep the lid on all of this. They slipped in 2017, seeing secrecy starting to crack open over the following years, but had a come to Jesus moment, and regrouped back to a total denial stance. Seemingly regardless of Congressional pressure. Because they believe if the truth gets out, they fear society worldwide goes on a mega-YOLO splurge, with all the consequences that entails until “it” happens. What happens if that chaos lasts for a year? Or two? Maybe even 5 years or longer? No government is capable of controlling it. Maybe piecemeal at first, but ultimately it will fail.

So, with this knowledge, what are the insiders instead doing? The only thing they can do: pursuing a Continuation Of Government (COG) strategy. It’s the only option available. They’ve been building the Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBs). Stocking them with vast amounts of supplies and equipment. Linking them together with huge underground highways. Spending ungodly amounts of $ on these projects while the money still works. Allowing debt levels to soar way past the point of no return, knowing in advance debt becomes instantly meaningless when this all goes down. The chosen will be saved. The rest are already dead men walking. The spending on unsustainable social programs, and other commitments, will continue in order to keep the public under an illusion of normalcy.

Then you have those, like Lue, who know all this. They are living in a world unlike ours. They know the likely fate of us all. But more specifically, they know the fate of their own children. They see through the illusion. They know that the normal life path their children, their families and relatives, friends and neighbors, are pursuing on a daily basis, is pointless. They are deeply torn, even panicked, knowing the inherent injustice they are helping perpetuate. Yet they too, see the consequences of releasing the knowledge. The furthest they can go, is to hint that time is precious, and reality may not be what you see. Maybe they let this revelation out because of guilt. They still feel the government needs to acknowledge this publicly, at least in a piecemeal fashion. They believe we all have the right to know what’s happening to some extent, because the ultimate duty of government is to the people from which it serves. They are also aware that members of the government who possess this knowledge, don’t feel any responsibility to the public at all. They are apparently above us all, will of the people be damned. People like Lue, and other whistleblowers, have a big problem with that. But not big enough, to break their NDAs.

Those in the public who have been paying attention to this entire drama, and especially those who have had encounteres and even interactions with these mysterious entities at various levels of intensity, are indeed frustrated by all the shenanigans. We get dots to connect, and crumbs to follow. We get the stonewalling. The ridiculous denials. The mockery by the skeptics and controlled media. We get the teasing videos. Testimonies. Books. Social media outlets. Conferences. Discussions about Disclosure. But, it’s always like Lucy pulling away the football at the last second. The goal is never scored. The “official” truth remains stubbornly hidden, despite all the evidence collected over decades of time.

Now the next round of “bombshells” is on the way. More Congressional hearings with possible new witnesses who have “seen shit”. James Fox’s new documentary. Bob Lazar’s project. Richard Dolan’s new series of books. Who knows what else. Today is World Disclosure Day by the way, and Danny Sheehan has a presentation being live streamed tonight on YT. Let’s see how many new breadcrumbs we the public get thrown our way.

I leave you with this tidbit. FF to 40 minutes in, and listen for the next 10 minutes. More naphtha for the Disclosure fire, or another football pull on the way? You decide.

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Hello r/UFOs community!

We are hosting a discussion thread for Global Disclosure Day on r/ufos, as announced a week ago. This event is hosted by the New Paradigm Institute at 1:00 PM EST/7:00 PM CET (Central European Time) today. Information about the event can be found here in our Announcement Post.

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You can watch the live stream here.

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Original Title: WELCOME TO GLOBAL DISCLOSURE DAY 🌎 🛸 YouTube livestream begins at 10:00am PST | 1:00pm EST | 7:00 PM CET - Join us for this worldwide event! Speakers include Ross Coulthart, Karl Nell, Lue Elizondo, Danny Sheehan and many more.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/optimal_90 on 2024-10-20 04:41:47+00:00.


Retired Lt. army Chuck DeVore is discussing the possibility of those drones being launched from a ship or a mothership due their large size.

Also reported some drones flying over nuclear test sites in Nevada not long ago.

He also mentioned some some of the FBI agents looking into this had drones flying over their homes.

In the end he said he is 99% sure those drones are from China, but my question is: Why would China send large drones with flashing lights over a US military base??? And why USA didn’t shoot them???

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/WarbringerNA on 2024-10-20 04:28:59+00:00.


These events have been a topic of discussion as of late and although it is popping up more in the media I find the discussion there to be severely lacking. I wanted to start a thread to organize my thoughts for one, open it up for discussion, to show that they are indeed UFOs (by the technical meaning of the phrase), highlight that the idea that they are commercial is beyond silly, and that even the only other possibly viable idea of a nation-state's actions doesn't make much sense either.

These objects that have been called "drones" or "drone swarms" are technically UFOs (not necessarily extraterrestrials, not necessarily aliens, not necessarily stereotypical flying saucers) as Pentagon spokespersons have testified before Congress that they indeed don't know what they are (sources below).

The testimony before Congress, the high altitude, and the intentional visibility of these drones suggesting they may be Non-Human Intelligence (NHI) craft—is an intriguing perspective. Let's break down why some of the factors mentioned push the argument toward NHI rather than a nation-state actor:

  1. **Testimony of Uncertainty**: Pentagon officials have repeatedly testified before Congress, admitting that they do not know what these objects are or how to deal with them. This is significant because, in most other cases of aerial incursions by foreign entities, the U.S. military typically has a clear idea of the origin and intent of the craft involved. The admission of "unknown" aerial phenomena, especially when it occurs over restricted military bases like Langley, is rare and highlights an unusual lack of clarity.

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  1. **High-Altitude Flight**: While many advanced drones (including military drones) can fly at high altitudes, these incursions involve sustained flights at levels that push the boundaries of known drone technology, especially if they are not designed to remain covert. This ability to hover over sensitive sites at high altitudes with little fear of interception or retaliation adds to the mystery and suggests advanced capabilities beyond typical drones from a nation-state.

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  1. **Intentional Visibility**: The drones’ highly visible behavior, including flashing lights, is indeed counterintuitive if these were covert surveillance operations from a foreign adversary. The intentionality behind making themselves seen could be interpreted as sending a message. If these objects were from a nation-state, their overt visibility would make them easier to identify, and that kind of visibility undermines the strategic advantage of espionage.

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  1. **Nation-State Disadvantages**: From a strategic standpoint, a nation-state would gain little from such overt actions, especially over high-profile military installations. Such behavior would risk open conflict without any clear intelligence or tactical advantage. It would also expose the actor to retaliation or sanctions once identified, making this a high-risk, low-reward strategy.
  2. **NHI Possibility**: When taking all of this together—the testimony, the technological sophistication, the seeming disregard for secrecy, and the strategic illogic from a nation-state perspective—it opens the door to speculation about NHI or other non-terrestrial sources. The U.S. military has started to address the possibility of UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) in a more formalized way, acknowledging that there are aerial objects for which we have no current explanation.

While there's no direct proof of NHI involvement, the factors emphasized here do lend themselves to interpretations beyond conventional explanations. The fact that the U.S. military is unsure how to handle or classify these incursions adds weight to the possibility that these might be something outside of known human technology. Ultimately, this remains an open question and one that SHOULD continue to provoke both scientific inquiry and public debate.

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If anyone lives in Oklahoma, go outside and look at the sky. I’ve never seen a UFO before tonight and now I’ve seen at least fifteen. They are bright and indistinguishable from stars until they move. No way they’re meteors because they fly in serpentine patterns, come to a standstill, and fly back and forth. If you live here or close by go take a look!

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Original Title: Interesting clip from Lue Elizondo's Imminent Audiobook - Lue goes into detail about 2 UAP videos. A "wedge shaped craft" that looked "completely alien" and the 23 minute video which shows 3 crafts "dancing across the sky", darting 60 miles back and forth instantly & "toying" with a predator drone.

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/bocley on 2024-10-19 22:53:53+00:00.


There's a new article just up on LIberation Times that's very interesting. It's written by Geoff Cruickshank (a.k.a. harry_is_white_hot). Once again Geoff is digging deeply into post-WWII history. This time he's revealing more possible links between JFK's demise and the secret policies around UFOs that he was trying to get to the bottom of.

General Curtis LeMay and UFOs: An Obsession that Led To a Showdown With JFK?

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Presumably, it'd be a pair of binoculars (or a monocular) that are: * Gen 3 * Unfilmed * Night vision * With infrared * Long range

Has anyone researched this? What additional considerations ought to be made to attach a video recording device (phone, DSLR, etc)?

Note: this would be for US civilians only.

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Why should we be thinking this is ok? I am definitely not, for one it is appalling to hide this from the world and it is completely morally wrong on a scale that is hard to imagine.

I am tired of seeing those in positions of power get away with so many things the list is staggering, can we just have justice this once over something so important?

We all know Epstein and the many people close to him whom will probably never face anything unfortunately, couple that with the many others of the 20th century getting away with so many things. I would like to see this issue be properly addressed in full legal capacity!

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The original was posted on /r/ufos by /u/VolarRecords on 2024-10-19 09:54:10+00:00.


A few weeks ago, after months of research and realizing that George H. W. Bush's name kept popping up in the lore of UFO history, and in light of the remark by David Grusch that Dick Cheney sits at the top of the UFO/UAP cabal of secrecy, I decided to dig in and get everything down.

It ended up being a much wilder ride than expected. H. W.'s father Prescott Bush and father-in-law Herbert Walker, who George was named after, were highly involved with 1920s/30s Wall Street, an attempted fascistic takeover of the US in 1933 named the Business Plot in which they sought to usurp the newly-elected FDR. Then this same group funded the Nazis and created a new bank for doing so, were in charge of putting together the OSS, which helped the US navigate WWII and dictate the terms that ended the war, all the while securing the capture of the Magenta, Italy 1933 UFO/UAP crash-retrieval. Then, post-Roswell, they went on to help form the CIA and used to it as to both hide recovered exotic technology while also building their wealth via Big Oil and using the agency to commit coups across the world. One small group of mostly rich, White, elite men from the notorious Skull and Bones secret society at Yale, a future primary recruiter for the CIA at the behest of alma mater Prescott Bush, went on to effectively run the world, and into the ground, at that.

You can read the first eight parts here:

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So, in light of the news last week via journalist Michael Shellenberger of the UFO/UAP umbrella program Immaculate Constellation, run out of the office of the Secretary of Defense, it's time to look back on that office in particular and some of the other folks in its orbit.

Here's a short piece by NewsNation with Ross Coulthart on the revelations of the program:

Here's the full interview of Michael Shellenberger by Ross Coulthart on the program:

Here's Shellenberger's article on his Public Substack:


Been meaning to dig into this for a bit, and now we can focus in on James Forrestal, the first Secretary of Defense, who was given that position post-Roswell when the Department of Defense, the Air Force, the NSA, the CIA, and others were created.

Like Allen Dulles and "Wild" Bill Donovan who formed the OSS and later the CIA, Forrestal came from the world of Wall Street. In 1940, while Dulles and Donovan were putting together the OSS leading up to the US entering WWII in 1942, Forrestal was appointed Undersecretary of the Navy.

James Vincent Forrestal (February 15, 1892 – May 22, 1949) was the last Cabinet-level United States Secretary of the Navy and the first United States Secretary of Defense.[\1])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal#cite_note-Historical_Office_James_V._Forrestal-1)

Forrestal came from a very strict middle-class Irish Catholic family. He was a successful financier on Wall Street before becoming Undersecretary of the Navy in 1940, shortly before the United States entered the Second World War. He became Secretary of the Navy in May 1944 upon the death of his superior, Col. Frank Knox. President Franklin D. Roosevelt requested that Forrestal take the lead in building up the Navy. In 1947, after the end of the war, President Harry S. Truman appointed him the first secretary of the newly created Department of Defense. Forrestal was intensely hostile to the Soviet Union, fearing Communist expansion in Europe and the Middle East. Along with Secretary of State George C. Marshall, he strongly opposed the United States' support for the establishment of the State of Israel, fearing that this would alienate Arab nations which were needed as allies, and whose petroleum reserves were vital for both military and civilian industrial expansion.

Forrestal was a supporter of naval battle groups centered on aircraft carriers. He tried to weaken the proposed Department of Defense for the Navy's benefit, but was hard-pressed to run it from 1947 to 1949 after Truman named him Secretary of Defense. The two men were often at odds, and Truman forced Forrestal's resignation.

Thereafter, Forrestal's mental health rapidly deteriorated, declining to the point in which he underwent medical care for depression. While a patient at Bethesda Naval Hospital, Forrestal died by suicide from fatal injuries sustained after falling out of a sixteenth-floor window.

In 1954, the USN's new supercarrier was named USS Forrestal in his honor, as is the James V. Forrestal Building, which houses the headquarters of the United States Department of Energy. He is the namesake of the Forrestal Lecture Series at the United States Naval Academy and of the James Forrestal Campus of his alma mater Princeton University.

He became a partner in 1923, was appointed vice president in 1926, and by 1937 was president of the company. He also acted as a publicist for the Democratic Party committee in Dutchess County, New York, helping politicians from the area win elections at both the local and state level. One of the individuals aided by his work was a neighbor, Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Forrestal was a compulsive workaholic and skilled administrator. He was described as pugnacious, introspective, shy, philosophic, solitary, and emotionally insecure.[\3])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal#cite_note-DictAmBio-3)[\7])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal#cite_note-7)[\8])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal#cite_note-8) He took no part in national politics, though he usually voted for Democrats, but did not support New Deal liberalism.[\9])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal#cite_note-9)

So he was in the good graces of FDR and then given a high governmental role, (his first!) in 1940. Then he was appointed Secretary of the Navy in May 1944, around the time the US was recovering the Magenta UFO in Italy. Truman was well-aware of Magenta and prior US UFO crash-retrievals as well as Roswe...


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Original Title: Sheehan: we have to mobilize now to prepare for the extraterrestrial intervention thats about to take place. Its rare for a planet to gestate life, and they wont allow our species to destroy it. Elizondo: "time is a luxury we cant afford"


Ive been out of the loop a bit, so i just want some opinions on these things that were said recently.

Heres the video (timestamp 43:40)

Some quotes about the "life gestating capacity of earth":

Sheehan: I have talked face to face with individuals who've been present while the ET beings are being interviewed. In the interviews the ET beings acknowledged that they're extraordinarily concerned about the fact that our species has developed thermonuclear weapons. That we're on the brink of having a thermonuclear war which threatens the life generating capacity of our planet.

That among all the tens of billions of of planets that are in our galaxy it's a comparatively rare event to have one of these planets that actually gestates life. Obviously there are others than our Earth that have gestated these other species okay, but the fact is this is a comparatively rare phenomenon in the galaxy. And therefore they they cannot allow just one species that has evolved on this very special planet to destroy the life generating capacity of it.

Some quotes about the coming ET intervention:

Sheehan: We have to work together to be able to maintain as much agency and sovereignty as we can possibly legitimately maintain in the face of the revelation of the existence of this extraterrestrial civilization. The fact of the matter is they seem to be preparing to potentially intervene directly to stop the thermonuclear war and to stop the total devastation of our ecological systems on our planet okay

That means that the intervention is going to reveal their presence and that's what's motivating a significant number of people in the Pentagon right now to be coming forward, trying to establish a systematic process for a controlled disclosure about their presence.

... what's going to happen is, when the intervention takes place on the part of the Extraterrestrial civilization, its going to be totally disruptive, that people are not prepared for it, that they haven't prepared how to respond to it economically, politically, geopolitically, religiously and theologically.

You know and philosophically this is something that needs to be done at the academic level of all of these departments. We have to mobilize now and start to prepare our people for this intervention thats getting ready to take place. We want this to be as amicable as possible, we want to get on famously with the Extraterrestrial civilization, we don't want to lose our sovereignty, we want to be able to maintain as much self-governance and control as we can on our planet.

I wonder if this is connected to Elizondo's "imminent". Elizondo is the client of Sheehan, so they may have discussed these things. In fact in above quote Sheehan says this coming intervention is the motivation why people from the pentagon are coming forward. Heres a quote from an interview with Elizondo:

Video (timestamp 2:03:10):

Jesse Michels: I'm not going to lie... when I spend time with you, and we've spent a decent amount of time together, I get the sense that you're sitting on things that feel like very hard truths. It feels like your uh, existence, like you want to say more, and you feel like you're holding it together, and that's a tough spot to be in, and so to the extent you can talk about it, what might be imminent? What is imminent?

Elizondo: time is not a luxury that we can afford

So whats the opinion of you guys here? Is this the basic story of whats been going on? That god has sent this hierarchy of different ET species here to preserve the life giving capacity of earth, that they've been warning us and creating hybrids for some sort of intervention?

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