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Deadpool & Wolverine: $438,300,000

The Marvels: $206,136,825

Madame Web: $100,298,817

(Yes, I know Madame Web isn't an MCU movie.)

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 88 points 4 months ago (25 children)

It's almost like people like good movies. Who would have thunk it?

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Also:

I've seen it said that people didn't like The Marvels or Madame Web because the average comic movie audience is sexist as hell and hates even the idea of female protagonists. I'm not going to pretend that such shitheads don't exist, but they're a tiny and loud minority. Female lead characters (or lead characters of any underrepresented demographic) don't automatically lower the bar for quality for the movie. If it's a bad movie, it's still a bad movie.

I myself belong to a couple underrepresented demographics, although I won't specify here which ones. I get told that I should like x or y movie because lead character is like me, but then the movie is bad with bad writing and bad acting and so on and so forth. It's extra fun when the character that I'm supposed to identify with is insufferable as all hell (thanks guys, you telling me that I'm insufferable?). Pandering doesn't make a movie better. Actually make a good movie, and people will like it.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 months ago (4 children)

If it's a bad movie, it's still a bad movie.

For me personally, the reason I absolutely despised Captain Marvel had absolutely nothing to do with the gender. I hated that movie for the same reason I hate almost all depictions of Superman: universe defining power with no real character growth, meaningful struggle or change.

They start with godlike power but don't know it, discover they have godlike power, and then proceed to trivially dismantle the plot with some contrivance thrown in that doesn't pose any danger at all to them. It just makes for incredibly boring storytelling.

[–] fandango@lemmy.today 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Have you seen 'My Adventures with Superman'? I think they did a great job in this series dealing with the issues you mention.

As an aside, One Punch Man is an example of a series where the protagonist is absurdly OP but super entertaining nonetheless - not a comic book series though, of course.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

My Adventures with Superman

No, never heard of it. I'll check it out at some point.

I did like One Punch Man, and yes, they lampshade the sheer ridiculousness of his power level, and even mess with preconceptions by having the origin story be as mundane as possible. I think the core difference between One Punch Man and Superman/Captain Marvel is that OPM isn't supposed to be taken seriously. The mismatch is the joke.

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