Is hate speech against religious people acceptable? (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 years ago by kher@lemmy.world to c/general@lemmy.world

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After the ban of the c/christians community for having a rule against LGBTQ+ content. I wonder where is the actual line of what is allowed and what is not on this instance. (https://lemmy.world/post/1762563)

There are plenty of instances allowing hate speech against religious people. Looking through them I can see how they can be pretty offensive for someone who was brought up religious.

For example !atheistmemes@lemmy.world.

From their description

No Pro-Religious or Anti-Atheist Content.

Some of the content:

To clarify, I do not feel offended, as I am in no capacity religious and I am an atheist also. I also do not ask for the removal of that community as I don't believe neither of the two should be removed.

But going through the content on atheistmemes the content there is far worse and more offending than it was on c/christians. While on c/christians only the rules where marginally breaking the rules, while there were no content that was in violation. This community in my opinion does both.

Allowing anti religion community while banning the pro religion one is creating a real deficit of different opinions here.

What is your opinion? Do you think that one should be allowed while the other not and why?

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[-] Overzeetop@kbin.social 17 points 3 years ago

Religion is about what a person believes. LGBTQ+ is about who a person is.

If you want to hate people for who they are, do it somewhere that isn't Lemmy.world. If you don't want to see people posting about your belief, go make your own Lemmy server and defederate.

[+] kher@lemmy.world -12 points 3 years ago

Some people are brought up since childhood in religious environments, and for all they know they are Christians. They didn't really chose to be one.

The same way I don't want LGBTQ+ people to not feel welcome, I do not want religious people to not feel welcome, just because they were born in such an environment.

[-] donuts@kbin.social 6 points 3 years ago

Some people are brought up since childhood in religious environments, and for all they know they are Christians. They didn’t really chose to be one.

In my opinion, the people who have been indoctrinated into a religion from birth, and who have never been exposed to fair religious criticism or alternative ideas, are the exact people who should be.

Like political parties and clubs, religion is an idea, and in my view ideas are never above questioning or criticism.

[-] kher@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago

I agree, but I would not be selective in allowing criticism of one group while banning criticism of another.

[-] Can_you_change_your_username@kbin.social 9 points 3 years ago

It's a false equivalency. Sexuality and sexual identity are innate characteristics not learned beliefs or behaviors. Sexuality and sexual identity cannot be changed ideas can.

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