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[–] the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (25 children)

There is hope for everyone to get to Heaven, but by no means should we on Earth be making pronouncements on which specific people are in Hell. That's way above our paygrade and I'm happy to keep it that way. People like this just make all Christians look stupid.

[–] Hobbes@startrek.website 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Many religious people are misinformed. Christianity does not have a monopoly on dumb.

[–] Hobbes@startrek.website 3 points 3 months ago

You're right. All religious people are stupid.

[–] the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm glad you're honest about what you think of me.

[–] Hobbes@startrek.website 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You're an adult who believes in fairy tales and follows the selected writings of people who had no other way of explaining the world. Christianity is hateful, patriarchal, and along with other major organized religions, responsible for most of the pain and suffering in the world.

Grow up.

[–] the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fairy tales, eh? Like that the universe could not have possibly created itself and all that came to exist must necessarily have an origin which we know as God? Or are you referring to the incredibly well-attested resurrection of Christ, which most people dismiss simply on the grounds that "I assume this is impossible, therefore it didn't happen"?

Christianity is a religion that's about sharing the love of God with everyone you know. There's harsh truths that come with that, yes, but does someone really love you if they don't tell you the truth? And how do you measure which ideas and concepts are "responsible" for human suffering? I could argue that the godlessness of the 20th century has led to the horrifying deaths of tens of millions of people in the 20th century and a depression/loneliness epidemic that's so agonizing that people are creating wonders of technology to cure it in their futile effort to deny the existence of their souls. If religion was itself responsible for so much suffering, then why were communist nations, which rejected religion entirely, the cause of so many deaths? Surely if religion is such an idiotic and backwards idea, rejecting it should lead to an utter paradise, right?

I outgrew my atheism over five years ago and I thank the Lord for it. There's plenty of room for you in this gathering too, fellow.

[–] Hobbes@startrek.website 1 points 3 months ago

Wow you're dumb.

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