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Home Assistant is open source home automation that puts local control and privacy first. Powered by a worldwide community of tinkerers and DIY enthusiasts. Perfect to run on a Raspberry Pi or a local server. Available for free at home-assistant.io

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Excellent Home Assistant Platform (www.ebay.com)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works to c/homeassistant@lemmy.world

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Dell Outlet on Ebay has the Latitude 3140 laptop, an excellent Home Assistant platform on sale for $176. A Raspberry Pi 5 or NUC with the hardware needed for these features would cost far more. The same machine is nearly 2x more on the regular Dell Outlet site.

Debian 12 supported out of box - no additional drivers needed
Fast N200 Intel processor - ~60% faster than a Raspberry Pi 5
256gb SSD
8GB ram
Advanced BIOS options
OpenVino support for Frigate
BIOS battery management.  Can limit charge to 75% for years of battery life
6 hour indicated battery life at 75% charge
Very low power usage - ~6 watts when running Home Assistant with several USB devices
Fanless and completely silent
Built like a tank

Negatives:

Built like a tank. Chunky for a small laptop
No integrated Ethernet port
Mediocre screen

I bought one of these last year when it was on sale from another vendor and have been really happy with it, especially for the cost.

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[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 13 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Having a screen, a battery and no ethernet doesnt sound good for a home server. N100 boxes on aliexpress are cheaper than this.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

Every machine has advantages and disadvantages, but I'm not sure why having a screen and a battery fall into the disadvantage category. The Aliexpress machines have some serious disadvantages including fans and an almost complete lack of support for most of them. And long-term support is a fantasy.

Dell sucks in many ways, but their support is in English and they produce firmware updates for several years after a product is released, especially for machines used by enterprise customers like this one.

Besides, if you add a UPS (and they all have batteries) to any of those Aliexpress mini PC's you're well over the price for this machine even with a gigabit Ethernet adapter.

For me $70 extra for a silent system with display, keyboard, UPS, a real warranty, and long-term support is a bargain.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 1 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Display and keyboard are unnecessary bulk in my closet when I run everything headless, but fair. Lithium batteries in laptops and tablets don't last long when constantly plugged in and can spontaneously catch on fire if they're not watched. You can get N100 mini PCs on ali express without fans.

I didn't notice this before, but soldered ram is a non-starter. With 8GB of ram, you're not gonna be able to run anything besides maybe jellyfin and home assistant. Trying to combine jellyfin and nextcloud will run out of ram, and there's no slack for a container orchestrator like Kubernetes to automate container management. The Ali express boxes often come with 16GB, and its super easy to upgrade to 32/48gb for less than $100 when needed. You'd get 2-6x more capacity with a system with SO-DIMMs, at a cheaper price.

[–] Stampela@startrek.website 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

super easy to upgrade to 32/48gb

Not on an N95/97/100 as they support max 16… https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/231803/intel-processor-n100-6m-cache-up-to-3-40-ghz.html so they can be repaired, but not upgraded.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Alder lake minis work fine with 48gb dimms

https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/1bd892o/intel_n305_mini_homelab_with_48gb_ram_by_one_stick/?chainedPosts=t3_13npvng

the ram support is just a recommendation, as that's all that they've tested

[–] Stampela@startrek.website 1 points 3 months ago

The bloody morons… why they say 16 tops if it can do better? It’s not like they don’t have access to 16gb sticks to test 2 of them! Like, I get when it’s “this supports up to” and that’s the largest available at launch, but this is just stupid. Thanks for correcting me!

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