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[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (183 children)

Any ~~current~~ real-life examples of "communism good"?

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (10 children)
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Colonialism and indigenous eviction masquerading as "socialist".

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would argue that the Colonialism and indigenous eviction evils can be separated from the socialist successes.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If the Colonialism is what supported the system, it was not Socialist.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Colonialism certainly helped establish some settlements, but is colonialism essential for the survival of the kibbutz system? I don't think so.

For example, if a kibbutz was initiated (legally and paid for) in Australia, then colonialism would not be an ingredient.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But you nonetheless used a Colonialist system as an example.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I disagree. The ideology of a kibbutz is not Colonialist.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The example was colonialist. It has only existed in a colonialist form. You were tasked with providing an example of Socialism working, which by extension implies you believe colonialism to be compatible with Socialism. This is nonsense.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago

It has only existed in a colonialist form.

There are examples of kibbutzs outside of Israel. Colonialism is not (necessarily) part of the ideology.

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