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[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (25 children)

This message is definitely giving all the vibes of a disinformation/misinformation attempt. There is no metadata to harvest from signal.

Here is an example of all the extent of data that signal has on any given user: https://signal.org/bigbrother/cd-california-grand-jury/

It involves phone number, account creation time and last connected time. That's it. Nothing more.

The cross referencing of data is just nonsense. Google and meta already have your phone number. Adding signal info to it adds absolutely zero information to them. They have it all already. They know nothing of who you talk with, which groups you are part of.

The funding of Signal did involve public grants but that's not anything bad. Many projects and nonprofits receive public money. It does not imply that there are backdoors or anything like that. And signal was purposefully designed so that no matter who owns and operates it, the messages stay hidden independently on the server infrastructure. They did the best possible to remove themselves from the chain of trust. Expert cryptographers and auditors trust signal. Don't listen to this random ramble of an online stranger whose intentions are just to confuse you and make you doubt.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (14 children)

It's fascinating that these kinds of trolls come out of the woodwork any time obvious problems with Signal are brought up.

Phone numbers very obvious are metadata. If you think that cross referencing data is nonsense then you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. It's not about Google or Meta having your phone number, it's about having a graph of people doing encrypted communication with each other over Signal. The graph of contacts is what's valuable.

Don’t listen to this random ramble of an online stranger whose intentions are just to confuse you and make you doubt.

What you absolutely shouldn't listen to are trolls who tell you to just trust that Signal is not abusing the data it's collecting about you. The first rule of security is that it can't be faith based.

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago (13 children)

What are you talking about? you get a phone number from signal, and what will you be able to derive from it? there is no graph. signal does not hold any "relationships" information.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Give me your phone number. I'll quickly be able to find out where you live.

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