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[–] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I say no. It's like if I give a vampire permission to enter my neighbor's house - that won't work.

The only difference between me and a judge is legal authority. Why should vampire magic care about the laws of man?

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.one 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Why should it care about the religion of man, then?

For that matter, why should it care about the invitation of man?

If there are rules a vampire must follow, and those rules can be satisfied through the agency of human beings, having been interpreted by human beings, then we have to consider what a human being means by invitation.

If a 4-year-old invites a vampire into his parents' house, does that count? It's not his house, either. If you think that a vampire can enter on the invitation of a 4-year-old then you must concede that people other than the owner can invite someone in. If you think that invitation is not valid, then you must concede that a vampire respects a hierarchy of rights.

I think that the state asserts a right to invite other people into your house which supersedes your right to prevent them. We call that overriding invitation a warrant.

[–] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't agree with that at all.

I don't think the deciding factor here is literal ownership - what does a vampire care if you're owning, renting, paying a mortgage, or living with your parents? Rather, it makes most sense that the deciding factor to whether you can validly invite a vampire into a given location, is if that location is where you live. So the 4-year-old can invite the vampire in because the 4-year-old lives there. I might also accept that a vampire can be invited in by anyone who is already inside. There are plenty of more consistent options than just those you described.

In your hypothetical scenario, if vampires were to somehow gain control of the government, could they simply pass a law stating all vampires are invited in all domiciles? Legal systems change and can vary wildly depending on location - it's silly to think they'd have an effect on something based in magic, not law.

[–] venia_sil@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

In your hypothetical scenario, if vampires were to somehow gain control of the government, could they simply pass a law stating all vampires are invited in all domiciles?

Yes, but it wouldn't have the effect you expected because the people still living on those homes have not invited them in.

Invitations are not associative and not transitive. If I invite John to my enter house, that doesn't allow James to "infer" that he's also invited, nor does it allow John to invite James into my house.

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