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[–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (5 children)

This is not just about the pressure put on academics to publish, but it is a whole systemic rot, that is not even remotely living up to the "peer reviewed evidence" myth.

The whole idea of an intermediary authority for scientific publishing is a scam, and it corrupts people who want/need to be in the pyramid. The whole thing is ill-conceived, needs to be abolished, and a new thing should be put in its place. At some point someone said, "I can ditch all this and just publish research on my blog, then people will criticize and build upon that". No publisher, no paywall, no problem. If we follow this example, all of these issues can disappear overnight. But the vast majority of professionals value their career more than anything else, including our tantamount tenets of what science communication should look like.

You might object that "intermediary authorities" and "peer review" are essential to prevent disinformation and conspiracy theories. Well, we are past this point aren't we? Did this system prevent conspiracy theories and disinformation, hoaxes, and fraudsters this far? No, so how exactly will it prevent all of these terrible things in the future? If anything, building arguments in the open without paywalls might deter at least some of the conspiracy theorists that brandish paywalls as further evidence of cover-ups and secrecy, and ditching the horrible jargon and high-brow style might actually help the common sense of scientific arguments just shine, and combat the rising anti-intellectualism of right-wing conspiracy theorists.

Like, if you explain Elsevier's etc business model to any lay person (Pay me money so that I let you publish to my super-selective journal and feed your vanity) they have the most funny reactions, because to anyone who is not conditioned to this absurdity, it just sounds like a pyramid scheme.

[–] nous@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think that “intermediary authorities” and “peer review” are the problem here nor will they completely eliminate disinformation and conspiracy theories on the internet. Getting rid of them does not help at all with those goals though. The big problem with publishers ATM is the closed access and processes that go on.

IMO places like Open Science Journal and PLOS are vastly better and attempting to solve the issues with the current closed and restrictive publishing models.

[–] whydudothatdrcrane@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Perhaps we could benefit from sth like MetaCritic for science.

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