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A lot of the posts here are just pointing out how illogical religion is, which I don't mind. I'm religious myself, but I'm well aware how ridiculous it is. What does bother me is the arguments against Christianity that are used as arguments against all religions. Most of you were likely raised christian, so I understand why you focus on it, but most religions don't have all of the problems Christianity does. I think a lot of the posts here would fit better in an ex-christian community.

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[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I don't think you should fixate on any religion. I think you should fixate on religion itself. I understand that you deal with Christianity more, but this isn't a-christianity, its atheism. I understand why you might want to focus on Christianity, my problem is that its framed as a critique of religion in general. I don't like being wrongfully grouped in with Christians. I just want it to be specified when something you talk about is only a problem in Christianity.

[–] stu@lemmy.pit.ninja 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't know which posts you're taking issue with exactly, but I personally try to be pretty precise when I criticize religions because I think that's the best way to criticize them. Speaking broadly about all supernatural phenomena being bullshit only gets you so far in a conversation. Vague statements like "the world would be more peaceful without religion" are only so meaningful.

The other thing to consider is that religions aren't monolithic entities either. If I'm criticizing American Christian theocrats, I'm generally not addressing moderate Christians who believe in separation of church and state. If I'm criticizing jihadists and burkas, I'm obviously not addressing moderate Muslims. Context has to be taken into consideration. If people feel personally attacked by what I say because of a general association with religion broadly or a specific religion, it's kind of a them problem, not a me problem. And, btw, I'm saying all this as a nontheistic satanist who has plenty of experience having my own religion misunderstood.

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't know which posts you're taking issue with exactly, but I personally try to be pretty precise when I criticize religions because I think that's the best way to criticize them.

Good, that's all I want. As long as you specify that you are talking about an individual religion, it won't bother me. You aren't my problem.

And, btw, I'm saying all this as a nontheistic satanist who has plenty of experience having my own religion misunderstood.

I'm not trying to be rude but wouldn't that just come with the territory? If you call yourself a satanist then I imagine a lot of people would reasonably assume you believe in and worship Satan.

[–] cassielfsw@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only if they can't be bothered to ask questions and do a little research instead of making assumptions.

Do you really not see how that could cause confusion? Christians believe in and worship Christ, why wouldn't they apply the same logic to you? Everyone makes assumptions when they are that obvious, I don't understand how you can blame that misconception on them.

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