Wisconsin, US here. My county went 70% for Trump this time. That's versus ~48% in 2016. The problem isn't democracy. The problem is the people. Pissed as hell for all the wrong reasons at all the wrong people. Unable to see reality, expecting that the person in charge could make it a utopia with the flick of a switch. The average American is delusional and irreparably stupid.

We constantly joke that it's Idiocracy, but the truth is...

[–] quickdrinkthis@mander.xyz 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This. Was crazy to see everyone turn on the DNC and Harris the moment it was over like we are just unable to come to terms with the fact that we're surrounded by garbage and morons and there's no way around it

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The results aren't showing that though. They are showing a large amount of Democrat voters just stayed on the couch. Trump didn't get more votes than 2020, all that was needed was an energized democratic base.

[–] quickdrinkthis@mander.xyz 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Sorry but staying on the couch makes you fall under the garbage and/or moron category imo

[+] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml -13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Maybe dont genocide next time. Genociders, their financiers, and those who enable them are garbage.

[–] quickdrinkthis@mander.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay so best case scenario now you have an incompetent, ineffectual rapist and felon now who doesn't care about genocide in this country let alone another, and will let it drag on. Worst case you have an incompetent rapist and felon who will write a blank check to Netanyahu to finish the genocide quickly with whatever means necessary. His supporters and the people who sat back will share culpability in whichever happens. So we definitely agree on your last sentence

[–] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

will write a blank check to Netanyahu to finish the genocide quickly with whatever means necessary.

This is literally happening as we speak now that the election is over. How many Gazans will be left for Trump to genocide? How many months early will Israel complete their ethnic cleansing due to Trump? Is there a rate that can occur faster than the billions of dollars we are currently surprising?

I voted for your stupid fucking genocide candidate so fuck off.

[–] quickdrinkthis@mander.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean I'm guessing tens of thousands? Probably several months early when aid to Gaza goes to zero? So yes, I think yes there is a faster rate. Thanks for doing your part though, sincerely. I'm actually a Canadian living in the US so I'm indeed making plans to fuck off.

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Take me with you. I was so close to being able to claim citizenship through my mother.

[–] quickdrinkthis@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

Aw sorry dude. If it makes you feel any better, if I do end up having to abandon the life I've built here, I'll probably be forced to come back anyway when Canada elects its own Timbit trump next year and he bends over for the US to come take all our water

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Both sides.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Couch-bound voting was easily possible and effortless. They CHOSE to sit it out.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump still got 72 million votes and counting this time. That’s with another four years of Trump scandals, revelations, criminal charges, insurrections, mental declines, and on-video insane statements.

The people who stayed home, or the politicians who failed to motivate them, sure they carry some blame. They could have helped. But they are not the base. The ones who followed Trump from being the outsider who is fun because he’s an asshole/racist like them, to the corrupt traitorous dictator-to-be who they’d like to watch hurt people. Blame them much more.

The steady level of Trump support unfortunately supports the fear that our culture is just garbage. We’re surrounded by it. There are plenty of proud assholes, sure. But so many people will legitimately be pleasant to everybody they meet and seem to function in society, but either believe horrible things or have a thick shell of indoctrination and ignorance around their brain.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

The people that supported trump were always going to support him and be energized to vote. That's a big part of why focusing on his lies was such a waste of time, it wasn't going to change any minds. Winning elections is about motivating your base, undecided voters are a wash and opposing voters aren't likely to massively shift.

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you think they stayed on the couch cause kamala didn't give them the metaphorical coffee they needed or did they stay on the couch because they knew even if they voted for her and she won she wouldn't fix the issues this country faces? The corporate donors will not let any two party pawns address their control or runaway wealth. Voting isn't going to solve our issues now with trump. America is stuck waiting for things to get bad enough that people rise up or doomed to collapse.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

Does it really matter between those two? End of the day, Trump motivated his base and Harris didn't.

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