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Summary

Historians suggest Democrats might have fared better against Donald Trump by embracing the economic issues championed by Senator Bernie Sanders, who has long pushed for a focus on “bread-and-butter” concerns for working-class voters.

Despite Kamala Harris’s progressive policies, polls showed Trump was favored on economic issues, particularly among working-class and Hispanic voters.

Historian Leah Wright Rigueur argued that Sanders’ messaging on economic struggles could be key for future Democratic strategies.

Sanders himself criticized the party for “abandoning” the working class, which he said has led to a loss of support across racial lines.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (14 children)

The electorate is actually far more progressive on the issues than the corporate media lets on. But the minute the Democratic Party were to embrace Bernie-style positions? You can bet that not only the “liberal media” would declare this sO vErY eXtReMe, but all the big money would be spending against them, and spending against them hard. Think it’s bad now where crypto, Elon, and the Washington Post are tilting against the Democrats? Imagine they actually embraced progressives…

It would be worse than you imagine. Wouldn't need the liberal media or the big money to move against it. People don't translate policy positions into support for candidates. They vote on vibes, and any candidate espousing consistently left-wing positions sounds like a dangerous socialist to a good 2/3s of the country.

Not saying I love it, I just don’t know what the answer is.

Education. We just signed over the official apparatus to the fascists, though. So, uh, it's gonna be much harder than it should have been.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The "vibes" campaign by the Dems just failed hard.

And why is it that only the right should get to move "vibes" by sticking with extreme positions? Especially as things like universal health care, public housing, strong unions or debt free education are just normal in other western countries.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The “vibes” campaign by the Dems just failed hard.

Turns out the "Please don't vote for fascism" vibe isn't very appealing to the country.

And why is it that only the right should get to move “vibes” by sticking with extreme positions? Especially as things like universal health care, public housing, strong unions or debt free education are just normal in other western countries.

I didn't say we should give up any of those positions. I was saying policy positions do not consistently translate into votes, and the US electorate is easily spooked by anything they're told resembles 'socialism'.

[–] hraegsvelmir@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Turns out the "Please don't vote for fascism" vibe isn't very appealing to the country.

That was one vibe. Unfortunately, the rest of the vibe from the Democrats have been, "Well, things are actually pretty good, just look at our charts. Economy is doing great!". I think that's where they really failed the vibe check, telling people not that they will improve things in a major way, but that the status quo is mostly acceptable and they'll keep things from getting worse.

Change was the order of the day, and they ran a campaign on stability instead.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago
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