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Bombing civilian targets is just indefensible.
Yes. As was nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Eradicating fascism is a noble goal, but itβs still valid to criticise individual atrocities that people perpetrated to reach that goal.
Pretty weak trolling, yo. Might need to attend a few more seminars.
What does that have to do with Russia and Ukraine?
No they aren't, go away.
No.
I don't know how the British or the Americans remember things, but as a citizen of another country of the allies, it's not like we remember the bombing of Dresden as a moral high point of the war effort.
Mistakes are made in war. By all accounts the bombing of Dresden was one of them.
That said, I hate to give such a good faith response to your stupid-ass question.
Yes? A lot of experts agree that the campaign of bombing cities during WWII had the opposite effect than intended (demoralising the people in the hopes they would turn on the regime).
That has never worked, not then, not now.
Turns out a civilian population who are homeless, struggling to survive, have no basic services, all lines of communication cut, and are terrified for the immediate survival of their family, are in the worst possible position to organize against a tyrannical regime and military industrial complex.
"Hey refugee camp. We expect you to overpower the terrorist stormtroopers who are oppressing you. Weapons!?! Get fucked. Best we can do is destroy your lives so you have nothing to live for. It's for the greater good. Lol."
Is this supposed to be a point of contention?