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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 149 points 18 hours ago (10 children)

Not really. Not to be dismissive of the harms of a 2nd term trump.

But you have to understand what American history has been.

People were literally enslaved in the early days, then the country was literally at war with itself over slavery. Then Jim Crow and Segregation. Black people were lynched. White mobs would kill black people.

Chinese people were targeted by the Chinese Exclusion Act and banned from entry, some were US Citizens too and they weren't except either.

The US had a major economic crash in 1929. Got into 2 world wars. American Citizens of Japanese ancestry were literally arrested and held in camps because of their ancestry. Went through cols war, the red scare, mccathyism. People randomly getting accused of being "communists" and arrested. Unions get cracked down. Protests were brutally suppressed, more violently than in modern day. Black people protesting for their rights and took a bus down south got burned. Civil Rights activist Martin Luther King Jr. literally got assassinated.

That is the American history.

And here we are, through such a shitty history, democracy survived, and voting rights expanded to so many people. First to Black people, then to Women.

Back then a majority of the population supported segregation, institutionalized racism. But today, a majority of people are okay with interracial marriage.

I have high hopes we can survive another trump term.

It won't be pleasent, but we'll survive.

[–] juli@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

democracy survived

LMAO!!

Choosing between two candidate picked by lobbyists/corporations, and anyone else not having a slightest chance in hell isn't a democracy, but hey, you do you.

It's slightly better than China/Russia having a single candidate and everyone else is just for show.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

It is a democracy.

Not a good type, but still a democracy.

Remember, Democracy and Autocracy isnt binary states of its either a Full Totalitarian Regime or a Full Direct Flawless Democracy.

There's a sliding scale in between.

We don't just go from Monarchies to a perfect Utopian Flawless Democratic system overnight. Change is incremental.

I do agree with the sentiment that 2 party system isn't really a good idea, that very much need to be changed.

But its not like the constitution says "The United States shall be a 2-party system", its an emergent property of First-Past-The-Post electoral systems. But unfortunately, human brains always look for the first thing they think of, I mean "Most Votes Win" sounds simple right. People never thought about the fact that "Most" doesn't mean majority, but by the time people realize, its too late, people go too used to it.

But its still a democracy, a very very flawed democracy. But if you argue that First-Past-The-Post isn't a democracy, then most of the world are living in dictatorships.

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