the opposite of US imperialism is not Chinese imperialism, it's zero imperialism. But idk why I'm explaining this you don't seem like the type to understand anything that isn't a Disney/Marvel flavored good guy bad guy storyline

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except China isn't doing imperialism as anybody who's not an ignoramus guzzling US propaganda would know.

[–] lychee@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If the Taiwanese people wish to be independent then they are. If they don't then they aren't. Simple as.

Literally nothing you do, say, or feel will change that, because it doesn't concern you at all. No offense but you're kinda just some powerless angry loser, which exist by the billions on this planet already

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Polling in Taiwan shows that your statement is false. Simple as that.

The overwhelming majority of people in Taiwan want to maintain the status quo. The desire for Taiwanese independence has experienced a significant drop over the past three years, with only 25.3% of people who want to “move toward independence” or seeking “independence as soon as possible” - down from nearly one-third - 32.4% - in 2020.

https://esc.nccu.edu.tw/eng/PageDoc?fid=7424

What's more, that's despite US interference in Taiwan politics and media which is very well documented. US has poured countless millions into shaping the opinions of the people in Taiwan through orgs like NED, it directly grooms US politicians such as Tsai Ing-Wen. This is what's known as cultural hegemony.

US National Endowment for Democracy - REMARKS PREPARED BY NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR DEMOCRACY PRESIDENT CARL GERSHMAN AND READ BY ANDREW NATHAN AT TECRO DINNER WITH TAIWAN PRESIDENT TSAI ING-WEN (2019): https://www.ned.org/remarks-prepared-by-national-endowment-for-democracy-president-carl-gershman-and-read-by-andrew-nathan-at-tecro-dinner-with-taiwan-president-tsai-ing-wen/
US National Endowment for Democracy - TAIWAN PRESIDENT TSAI ING-WEN HONORS PRESIDENT OF NED CARL GERSHMAN ON HUMAN RIGHTS DAY (2019): https://www.ned.org/taiwan-president-tsai-ing-wen-honors-ned-human-rights-day/
US National Endowment for Democracy - REMARKS BY CARL GERSHMAN UPON RECEIVING THE PRESIDENTIAL MEDAL IN TAIWAN: https://www.ned.org/taiwans-destiny/

Sunflower Movement Leader Lin Fei-fan’s Associations with the US NED

Taipei Times - Beijing using free market to influence Taiwanese media, US symposium told (2013): https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2013/03/02/2003556088
The Diplomat - Sunflowers End Occupation of Taiwan’s Legislature (archived, 2014): http://web.archive.org/web/20140411235449/https://thediplomat.com/2014/04/sunflowers-end-occupation-of-taiwans-legislature/
Taiwan News - Former Sunflower Movement activists join DPP, Lin Fei-fan pledges to help DPP win election, prevent pro-Beijing forces from taking power (2019): https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3744833

Democratic Progressive Party (DPP)’s regular Reporting to AIT

Wikileaks - TSAI ING-WEN COMMENTS ON DPP TURMOIL (2005): https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/05TAIPEI4870_a.html
Wikileaks - DPP CHAIRPERSON TSAI ING-WEN ON CHALLENGES FACING PARTY AND U.S. ARMS SALES (2008): https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08TAIPEI892_a.html
Wikileaks - DIRECTOR'S FAREWELL CALL ON DPP CHAIR TSAI ING-WEN (2009): https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09TAIPEI754_a.html

[–] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol the graph clearly shows lack in interest in unification, even "unification as soon as possible" dropped. Isn't that enough sign that Taiwanese don't want unification as of now?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The graph clearly shows that vast majority of people are against independence. I see reading comprehension is not your strong point.

[–] lustyargonian@lemm.ee -2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If status quo means they are independent which they very much appear to me, then isn't that overwhelming majority support for letting it be the way it is, i.e. not ruled by PRC? If it is ruled by it, then why did PRC bring their vessels to threaten its own people just a month ago?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago

Status quo is that Taiwan is a province of China that's not independent. That's literally why the chart shows the support for becoming independent is practically non existent. If Taiwan was independent then there wouldn't be a question of it becoming independent. Hope that helps clear up basic logic for you.

Meanwhile, the real question is why the US still has presence in another country that's half way across the world from it.

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