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President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden, reversing his prior stance against using executive clemency.

The pardon covers Hunter’s federal gun conviction and tax evasion guilty plea, sparking political controversy.

Biden cited political attacks and a “miscarriage of justice” as reasons for his decision, emphasizing his son’s recovery from addiction and the targeting of his family.

Critics argue the move undermines the judicial process, while supporters view it as within Biden’s constitutional powers.

This decision shields Hunter from potential prison time as Biden nears the end of his presidency.

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[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 40 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (23 children)

It really shows how fucked up and desperate the American political discourse is at this point IMO. Before it was "see how much integrity Biden has for not even pardoning his own son", now it's turned into "Hunter was a political prisoner and victim of unjust persecution" in an instant. No one is willing to admit any faults because the other side gleefully profits from them. I can understand why people do it, but it's a worrying indication for the state of politics in America.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 22 points 12 hours ago (19 children)

To be fair, the biggest charge is the gun charge, and that's from lying on the 4473.

Honestly, that question shouldn't even be on the form, and I know loads of people who lie on that form, same question, all the time.

Weed is legal, but if you admit it, you can't buy a firearm to defend yourself from fash.

But, you can be a drunk, mow down kids in your SUV, and that's dandy.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

Habitual Drunkard is also on that form as a disqualifier, so you would have to lie about that as well if you were a drunk.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No it isn't. Look here:

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473-part-1-firearms-transaction-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download

Nowhere is "being a drunk" a DQ for owning a gun. Hell, being drunk, while buying the gun doesn't preclude you.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance? Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.

I could read that to include being an alcoholic. But I can also read it as being addicted to caffeine.

Yes, alcohol is technically a depressant, but I guarantee that the majority of people who sign that form don't know that.

It also says, "or any other controlled substance", implying that the list is made up of controlled substances, which alcohol is not.

I think a good lawyer could argue that alcohol doesn't count here, but no lawyer could ever argue that marijuana doesn't count, as it is specifically listed.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, calm down Utah. It's a federal form.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It depends on if you assume controlled substance applied to every item on the list or if being addicted to any simulant would count. How I read it, if alcohol counts, so does caffeine.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

One of many reasons it a bad law and unconstitutional.

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