This is the first time I'm seeing a way to host a full Bluesky network, I think. It seems like a big step towards full federation beyond appviews and personal data servers.

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[–] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 8 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

I asked the devs about this and they said that bluesky is designed to be a) modular b) trustless as much as possible. federation is supposed to happen on the trustless hosting and relay layers - you can ask your posts to be crawled by any indexer/appview.

But once you get to the indexing/querying layer, there are no more merkle proofs to keep everyone honest, so there is no point in federating because any indexer can modify/censor the content they send to another indexer instance. So you could still build an api to interact laterally between servers, but it wouldn't be atproto anymore.

[–] dragonfucker 6 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Could you maybe explain that in dumb people words in case some dumb people read your explanation and didn't understand it? 👉👈

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

the short is, bluesky is only designed to 'federate' with itself and will never be truely decentralized as it will never interact with 'foreign' servers.

all they really built is a twitter where a user can control their own node of information (pds) but it will never interact with another bluesky instance.

in the real fediverse, servers interact as they come on-line and are subscribed to each other by users. this causes some security issues, and portability issues but at least its actual federation creating webs of content by fully independent peeps.

[–] dragonfucker 3 points 13 hours ago

Thank you very much.

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