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TLDR: IMO drag is an abusive troll, so I blocked them. IMO Grail is genuine (though terminally online), I haven't blocked Them yet but They def are close due to having some shitty beliefs on some things (narcissism, politically inactive queers, etc). Also a bonus paragraph about my gender identity because I felt it fit(? IDK I'm tired AF and rambling).
Personally I saw drag's online behaviour as abusive and trolling so they got my standard response to that kind of behaviour; reported and blocked. On one of my alts I encountered them advocating for someone's suicide, then I blocked them across all of my accounts instead of just my main. (Looking at the modlog for them should be enough to see their pattern of behaviour )
In terms of Grail on the other hand I don't respect Their claims of divinity because I'm staunchly atheist. It has nothing to do with Their gender and is purely about Their claims of being a goddess. Will I capitalize Their pronouns when I use them? Sure, if I remember to go back and edit them as my phone likes to auto correct them constantly. (Hell I was in the thread awhile back with them trying to help them come up with a method so that their preferences could easily be seen by others because they were throwing a fit about a mod "misgendering" them by not remembering to capitalize their pronouns (The Post))
In regards to my gender: frankly I don't give a damn. I don't have strong opinions about my gender and I present how I please, which wanders about the gender spectrum‡. Personally I feel that agender-genderfluid is basically my label in that regard. Just don't refer to me in a dehumanizing way and we'll be fine. I reflect that by not having pronouns in my bios or usernames.
‡ The gender spectrum itself is complex and multi-axial but that's the short and sweet of it.
IDK man, I'm just here to have a good time and not have to dodge abusive trolls and tip toe through the daisies for people who throw a fit when they get hit with my default way of referring to people (they/them).
Y'all are decent folk around here but I do feel there's a decent amount who need to step outside and touch grass (myself included)
Interesting take. I haven’t seen any poor behavior from drag at any point and, unless I’ve missed something, drag seems to be a fine and well-contributing member of this community.
Grail, on the other hand, I have no doubt is a troll. Aside from their consistent behavior, they were heavily involved with mindtraveller (if anyone remembers them) who was also very clearly a troll. Granted, they may also just be heavily narcissistic. Regardless, I refuse to entertain claims of divinity. The assertion that someone must be referred to as a god/goddess/superior being of any form is an assault on my and others’ freedom of religion, spirituality, or lack thereof.
No individual is inherently above or below another, nor will I be intimidated into referring to them as such - be it by them, mods, or anyone else.
idk I can respect drag's neopronoun but I'd imagine drag would get much less hate if it wasn't for shit like this
I don’t really see this as encouraging suicide. Drag explicitly stated that another option is preferable. Could’ve been worded better, sure, and it’s in very poor taste, but… I cant say I disagree…
Is nazis dying suddenly a bad thing now?
Fuck, hadn't seen stuff like that. Opinion changed.
you, you're doing it right. behavior is not an excuse to knowingly misgender someone. everything else in this thread is beside the point.
Wanting to fuck dragons isn't a gender. It's somewhere between kink and orientation.
Banning the user above for anti-trans rhetoric. Explaining the position here because we're consistently repeating ourselves and it's exhausting.
Drag's user name is Dragon Rider. I would assume the neopronoun "Drag" is a shortening of Dragon but even if not bare with me... Pronouns exist to replace nouns. Our name (or in this case online, our username) is a proper noun. People rejecting pronouns in favor of just using their name isn't new. I don't know why the community is so upset about this. You are well within your opinion to not like people. Whatever, you're allowed to hate Drag as a person. Don't hate Drag because you dislike Drag's pronouns.
Even then, why tf do you care that someone wants to be called Drag? I don't care about alternate account's NAMES. We can't prove whether or not Drag has alt accounts and even then, why do you care? Care about Drag's actions.
The more I end up running into Grail the more they give me narcissist vibes. Especially their stance that "critising narcissism is actually a conservative view point"
Not to mention the amount of times they seem to find excuses to link back to their blog articles.
I'm not sure who mindtraveler was/is but looking at Grail's recent comment history, yeah I hadn't seen the worst of their behavior as we're, in general, in different parts of the site.