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[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 13 points 5 days ago (13 children)

This is sorta the beginners philosophy question. There are plenty of answers, it's not the "gotcha" it appears to be. Those answers unroll into all sorts of branching other conversations but they exist.

Maybe it's because free will exists.

Maybe there's a greater purpose for what we call "evil" that results in more good.

Maybe it's a definitional thing, where "evil" to us is always going to be the most-evil existent thing so if existing evils were gone "evil" would still exist but it would consist of aggressive kitten licks or something. So "evil" can't not exist, but it's not because God can't get rid of what we call "evil" now.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Maybe it's because free will exists.

Then God shouldn't have given it to us, still his fault, OP still applies

Maybe there's a greater purpose for what we call "evil" that results in more good.

Then God should have given us the understanding of it so we're not left to question him, OP still applies

Maybe it's a definitional thing, where "evil" to us is always going to be the most-evil existent thing so if existing evils were gone "evil" would still exist but it would consist of aggressive kitten licks or something. So "evil" can't not exist, but it's not because God can't get rid of what we call "evil" now.

Shitty point, we have a clear definition of what these evils are currently and yet nothing is done about them. Maybe if we somehow lived in a world that no longer had the evils we see today you'd have a point but this is just a silly one

[–] comalnik@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

But free will cannot exist with an omniscient god, because if he knows everything, then everything is predetermined, giving us no free will and also making god evil for allowing all the suffering to happen. And if free will does exist god isnt omniscient

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