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So, Starfield was a disappointment (in my opinion). The story isn't interesting. The lore and world-building do not make sense. The game mechanics do not mesh together. (And it doesn't run well on the Steam Deck.)

But the promise of Starfield? The big space game? The big space RPG where you can play as Captain Reynolds type character? That's something I can get behind. I want to traverse space, visit different planets, get lost, meet interesting characters, solve their problems, and shoot some stuff. Two games come to my mind when I think of this:

  • No Man's Sky
  • Mass Effect

I've only played a few hours of No Man's Sky, but I think it does space traversal well. To put it bluntly, flying from planet to planet without interruption is better than fast travel. But the gameplay loop did not

Mass Effect nails the space adventure side of things. You visit multiple interesting places, you meet different people with curious problems, and you solve these problems (mainly by shooting). But it's a typical Bioware game: The places you visit are small and confined, and there are (comparatively) few of them. The space traversal is done by clicking a few buttons in a menu.

My question is: Are there any “big space games”? Are there any games that deliver on the promise of Starfield? What are your favourite sci-fi RPGs?

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (17 children)

The Outer Worlds is pretty much what Starfield could and should have been and was made by Obsidian, the developers behind a ton of other great games such as (in chronological order, with the best of all games ever bolded)

  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2
  • Neverwinter Nights 2
  • Fallout New Vegas
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Tyranny
  • Pillars of Eternity 2

There's even a sequel to it coming out some time this year so you don't run as much of a risk of running out of game any time soon!

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 18 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Hm. In my opinion Outer Worlds was just as boring and mediocre as starfield.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

Thank you! Felt like I was I playing a different game than everyone else.

Everyone mocked Starfield's Neon for being Discount Cyberpunk. But at least they played it as straight as they could. Like, I could believe people live there and had a life.

It felt like Outer Worlds kept trying to make jokes about how cruel capitalism is versus tell a real story. Like, "Oh boy time to go increase shareholder value!" Or "I love Space nuts. I have to say that or I die." Like wtf, where's the subtlety?

It's not Borderlands 3 bad, no where near it. But it's pretty bad.

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