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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

The whole “China bad America good” concept has been put in a different light of late.

Does EU/North America fear truly China because of its expansionist policies, or simply because their skin is a different colour? It’s not like the USA is above tampering in foreign government and bugging electronics.

I say go for it, Canada. If only because it’ll push Tesla off the scoreboard without the tariffs. They can’t compete.

[–] Rade0nfighter@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think a big part of why western countries “fear” china in the automotive space relates to local companies’ workers being expected to compete in a race to the bottom for compensation for labourers.

Just look at the fashion industry - sales of five dollar dresses made by workers at shein in miserable conditions dwarf those of 200 dollar dresses produced by local workers with a comfortable quality of life.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago

This is a fair point. China treats workers poorly, and they leverage labour camps for minorities.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

the skin, china has been making stuff that is cheaper than american/western sourced, and they dint like it, especially with the ev situation. granted chinas other tech not so much, because china rather industrially espionage in most cases, even thier "research" is scrutinized by peer review alot.

also chinas expansion policies, they almost never follow through, or does it in a way its very slow moving.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The only difference is that "China bad America Good" has shifted to "China bad, America also bad". None of the issues people have with China have magically gone away.

Exactly this. Why is this so hard for people to understand. China Russia the US and Israel can all be bad at once! Hating one doesn't mean you have to side with the other!