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[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 16 points 16 hours ago (16 children)

It's not about being competitive against Chinese EVs, it's about preventing China from attacking us economically, politically, and potentially even digitally.

These aren't just dumb vehicles, they're running Chinese made software, for a Chinese company, and reporting data back to China.

They're not just manufactured in China like you may have with other digital devices, with the software control and data residing in more friendly nations.

That matters.

[–] Yoga@lemmy.ca -2 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

We already have Chinese phones, applications, computers and networks.

I don't believe cars are not a meaningful attack vector relative to the economic benefit. Tiktok is a far larger threat.

The trade disputes related to Meng Wanzhou are nothing in comparison to what the US is doing right now.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 9 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I don’t believe cars are not a meaningful attack vector

Considering that EVs are now ranked as the worst offenders for spying on people, just imagine if China was being fed live audio/video + locations of all their customers. They could effectively set up actual surveillance that saturates every populated square meter of the country (including in people's garages or driveways!) through the Trojan horse of affordable EVs.

We should be cautious.

That said, if China can provide safe and affordable EVs that aren't connected to the internet... basically a dumb car that runs on batteries... it would be a much better thing for anyone considering a new vehicle.

Personally, I'd rather support Canadian, European, or Japanese auto manufacturers.

[–] Yoga@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Valid. I understand where you're coming from.

That said, if China can provide safe and affordable EVs that aren’t connected to the internet… basically a dumb car that runs on batteries

That would be ideal. If that was the goal, I'd support requirements for that. But that's not what we have, we have gigantic tariffs that were implemented because America did the same.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago

That would be ideal. If that was the goal, I’d support requirements for that. But that’s not what we have, we have gigantic tariffs that were implemented because America did the same.

Tariffs aside, the EU is already making it so cars with fewer screens and more buttons will get a higher safety rating.

That's a step in the right direction, and hopefully, the requirement for all vehicles to have an "offline mode" will be implemented soon, too.

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