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Oh you mean the one where Ukraine disarmed itself in exchange for sovereignty and protection and Russia armed up and got sanctioned for breaking the agreement. What a dumb fucking example.
One can argue? No Russia broke this agreement too.
Minsk Agreements had already been violated by Russian troops more than 4000 times, as noted by the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense during a meeting of the Ukraine-NATO Inter-Parliamentary Council. Ukrainians were shelled both from the temporarily occupied territories and from across the Russian border.
Russia has never honoured a single agreement with Ukraine, and has used each treaty to force Ukraine to weaken itself.
Fuck off.
No it isn't, US sanctioned Belarus in 2013 in violation of the agreement and America's only response was that the Memorandum is "not legally binding" and this action made it null and void in its entirety.
It depends if you consider null and void due to 2014 coup or not.
No Russian action undertaken under the Minsk II agreements ever violated the SPIRIT of the agreement. There were ceasefire violations but Russia never violated the spirit of the agreement.
It is for example, true that Russian-backed forces launched an offensive to capture a strategically important area but the fighting died down after 5 days when Minsk II came into effect when the area was captured and Russia also claimed that Minsk II did not apply to Debaltseve and Ukraine used similar arguments when launching their own operations into grey zones as you can see here:
"Yuriy Biriukov, an adviser to Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, says that almost the entire "grey" zone in Donbas, eastern Ukraine, has been liberated from Russian-led forces without breaching the Minsk peace agreements and is under control of the Ukrainian army."
Zelenskyy on the other hand, refused to federalize the country despite Ukraine having the obligation to give eastern territories autonomy through federalizing the country because of the Minsk Agreements. Ukraine also had the obligation to uphold linguistic rights to ethnic minorities but violated the Minsk Agreements with the 2019 language law which didn’t outright ban the Russian language but did discriminate against those who did not speak Ukrainian or an EU language.
Rude.
Your arguments in this thread are in bad faith.
For example treating the term "federalize" as if it's just a switch one can throw. If you actually know what federalization is, you would understand that the process takes massive legal effort, likely years, of alignment of legal processes.
Are they? Ukraine had many years to implement the Minsk agreement, Instead, Ukraine proceeded to implement new language laws which discriminated against the Russian language (going against the agreement), continued to imprison and torture political dissidents after the agreement was made as per Amnesty International which was also in violation of the Minsk Agreement which explicity stated that Ukraine was not allowed to imprison or punish people due to events related to the war in Donbas. Ukraine also refused to allow local elections.
"Ukraine insists that local elections can take place only after a complete ceasefire and withdrawal of all Russian troops and weapons.
Clear violation of spirit of agreement as such Russian forces were necessary for protecting the autonomy of the people in the Donbas until Minsk implementation.
The entire agreement was Ukraine allows local elections, Russia withdraws then everyone’s happy. Russia can’t do its part if Ukraine doesn’t
Fuck off, nobody here is buying your propaganda.
Quite rude.