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this post was submitted on 19 Jul 2026
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This is artificial selection.
Flooding societies with alcohol results in the people with more tolerance to alcohol surviving, that's not natural either.
I've seen this perspective a few times, feels wooly to me.
What definition of natural are you thinking of here?
OK a couple of other more blatant examples to think about.
Do you think the Nazis killing around 800,000 Roma was natural selection?
Do you think the Tuskegee experiments were natural selection?
The relevance in this context, is that AI is a technology being aggressively forced on people by the most powerful in society.
Eugenicists love to appeal to nature to justify their actions.
Well, it seems people are upset that I wasnt receptive to a non sequitur and it seems like I won't be getting an actual answer to my question.
Doesn't mean I have to be rude and perpetuate that behaviour so here is my answer.
Yes
Also yes
If you didn't answer my question because you didn't understand why I was asking I'll explain.
Please note, your question was not about correctness or morality it was natural vs artificial, if you want to ask about morals and ethics at least mention the words in the question.
We are part of nature so the things we do are also natural, despite our cognitive differences from other species I think that to consider ourselves somehow outside the bounds of nature is the height of arrogance.
Agreed, another in a long line of attempts to control the general populace by taking something we already use and monopolising control to sell it back to us (as long as we do as we're told)
Knowledge in this case.
I think this might be a general point and not aimed at me specifically, but I'll answer it just in case.
I'm not trying to use nature to excuse atrocities, as part of our natural evolution we've constructed these concepts as tools for our societies, so to use "being natural" as a way to somehow divorce ourselves from them is a nonsensical argument.