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On September 15, the United Auto Workers began a targeted strike against Ford, GM, and Stellantis (the conglomerate that includes Chrysler) in an effort to secure higher wages, a four-day work week, and other protections in the union’s next contract. The strike is a huge development for American workers, but it’s also a big deal for President Joe Biden—these car companies are central to his green-infrastructure agenda. The union wants assurances that the industry’s historic, heavily subsidized transition toward electric vehicles will work for them, too.

Biden, whose National Labor Relations Board has been an ally of labor organizers in fights against companies such as Amazon and Starbucks, has called himself “the most pro-union president in American history.” He has expressed support for the UAW’s cause (workers “deserve their fair share of the benefits they helped create,” he said last week) and has sent aides to Michigan to assist in the negotiations.

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[–] kaput@jlai.lu 85 points 1 year ago (65 children)

Didn't he severely fuck the train workers unions a few months ago, or did I get that wrong?

[–] the_toeknee@lemmy.world 135 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A fraction of the paid sick days they were asking for, while also not meeting their other major demands at all. Ending Precision Scheduled Railroading was a big one. Still going on.

They stopped them from striking and potentially making greater gains, then tossed them some crumbs.

They should have stayed the hell out of it or used the government's power to stop the rail companies not the strikers.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 32 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Well Congress did vote on a bill to give rail workers 7 days of sick leave at the same time as the vote preventing the strike. One bill got enough Republican support to pass, the other didn't. If there were more Democrats in Congress, the outcome would have been more favorable to the unions, hands down

[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the cool thing about strikes is congress doesn't have to vote for a company to give in to the demands of the workers. As a matter of fact congress has fuck all to do with it

[–] protist@mander.xyz -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Congress has the authority to require a company to give in to the demands of the workers, just not enough people in it who are willing to vote to do it

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If they'd not intervened AT ALL they could've gotten even more by striking.

Or even better just make a reasonable amount of sick days federal law for all, and also put better safety legislation for trains.

[–] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

hey me, angey and ill informed child, shut your faceHow does that not sound like a complete violation of the constitution. "We voted to give you 7 days to not work somtimes and in exchange took your right to not work"

[–] Pectin8747@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're the ones that made the call to split the bill saying it was guaranteed to pass which made no sense

We need to stop saying "if there were more democrats" and start saying "if there were more socialists"

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it boggles my mind that the bills were split. The only reason I can think of to explain that is that they simply knew what was going to happen and any other explanation is just gaslighting us into thinking that they were doing something.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it boggles my mind that the bills were split.

The only reason to split a bill is to pass the centrist/republican portion and let the progressive portion fail.

[–] drdalek13@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Sorry, gotta pull and old Reddit classic here:

This

[–] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's wild to me that Biden broke the strike then got them the tiniest fucking concession afterwards and people think that's an argument that he somehow was on the side of the union the whole time. Getting 4 sick days a year is absolutely nothing compared to the whole list of grievances and it's embarrassing that people bring this up in response to him breaking the strike.

[–] Kraiden@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh. It's really weird to read stuff like this. Just reminds me how lucky I am to not be in the US... with my legally mandated 10 days a year and all...

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Canada I currently have 346 hours of fully paid sick time available with 12 hours used. If I take over 5 days in a row I need to provide a doctor's note. Taking a leave of absence for medical purposes is rarely questioned, same with going on disability. Outside of that I took 10 weeks of fully paid paternity leave, and we have a sabbatical program where you can take a reasonable pay cut for 3 years and take the 4th year off. Also have 4 weeks paid vacation and can take an additional 2 unpaid, with some other funny options available. Dental/medical appointments are a separate fully covered time code.

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

People comment "don't let good be the enemy of perfect" about this, as if what they got even approaches good. You see how low the bar is at least.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If he was a Republican he would have them all fired and nationally ban unions. So, there’s that.

[–] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, how is that even constitutionally legal?

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What specifically are you referring to, being non-constitutional action? And, where in the constitution do you feel forbids the action?

[–] HelloHotel@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think I was refering to the fact that i thoght you'd be forced to work, (if the soundbyte of what happened is even true) it's likely biden only banned protesting (witch is the real violation).

I failed to be reasonable because I didnt read the details of what he actually did ~~on a technical level~~ and posted while i was angry.

Edit: wow, im not critical enough of my own ideas here, fixed that

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And how did Biden ban protesting? I think maybe you should get your mind off of politics and out of whatever right wing qanon garbage you’re ingesting.

[–] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I posted while angry, misread the facts and failed to properly call myself a dumbass for spreading Qanon level comments. I failed to interrogate my own claims to see if they made any sense.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Wow. Apology accepted! 👍

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

And ignored the union's other demands.

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