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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago (40 children)

Honestly, this place is full of communists. I’m not the biggest fan of communists, to be frank. There is a lot of backwards ideas that get accepted as “leftist,” when they’re really statist. Particularly revisionist history statist. If a communist party said it, you gotta defend it kinda thing.

[–] InevitableWaffles@midwest.social 31 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I don't identify as a communist. I just don't want life to be unreasonably difficult for people. Thats it. I just what the promise of what labor was supposed to be. I want it to free us from the shackles of work or die. Guess that is extreme left now even with tankies around the corner from us.

[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Exactly. We have 50 years of computer driven exponential growth and not a fucking thing is better for us. We don't work less, travel more, be richer, live a better life, or have a better future for the planet. It should make everyone anti-capitalist.

[–] Querk@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Data I've seen suggests otherwise. Care to engage with me so that we can figure out where the discrepancy lies?

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're joking, right? A peasant in the 1200s would work less than a regular person today.

[–] Querk@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you think an average person in 13th century had a better quality of life than an average person living in the 21st century?

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In many aspects, yes, they did lead a more fulfilling life.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imma call bullshit on that one lol

And sources for that?

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For one, the fact their work (which took significantly less time) lead to a real, objective difference and benefit in their society. There's also the fact that anyone not enslaved had partial or complete ownership of their lands. Not to be underestimated, as well, is the fact their society wasn't immediately doomed to collapse from worldwide catastrophes.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sure the women had great lives

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