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I don't remember what caused the Voat's origin, except it involved Reddit HQ. And then it went under in 2020.

What's different about this time and with Lemmy to make it a feasible alternative to Reddit? Is it random chance?

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[–] lynny@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago (55 children)

Voat died because they took a max free speech approach, even allowing racism and stuff. Lemmy does not have a central administration that can make decisions like that, as each instance gets to decide if they federate with another instance or not.

There's no doubt going to be a banlist that gets shared amongst the biggest, most popular instances to get rid of the trolls.

[–] Biscuit@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (25 children)

I don't know, I was there in the beginning. I think it died because it had no real content, compared to reddit. And, all anyone talked about was reddit, or reposted stuff from reddit, just like we're seeing here. I think this might stick a bit better because reddit is way bigger than it was back then, so even if the same super small % of users came over, it would still be quite a bit more content.

For comparison of how negligible all the Lemmy fediverse is, there are ~40k active users this month. Reddit has over 50 million active users. So, that's around 0.1% of reddit users. Literally 99.9% of reddit are not here.

I think it's probably doomed. It'll never overtake reddit. But, it'll be a nice, quiet, alternative.

edit: Here's a quick litmus test for all the downvoters (I guess "correct" answers only here!). How many times have you gone to reddit today?

edit: I was part of this attempted migration, not the hate one. This isn't the first blackout for reddit being shitty.

edit: I humbly apologize for my personal, speculative, opinion about the unknowable future. The downvotes have made me realize my math was wrong, my opinion is wrong, and I am wrong. My corrected opinion is that Lemmy will overtake Meta, Mastadon, Twitter, and Google (wtf is reddit!?), and every upvote will be worth $1000, making everyone rich! Or, we can have fun guessing, and wait and see how things go. I hope they go well!

[–] refugeered@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I do not know how to solve this but the disagree = down vote thing has gone crazy. It seems to have become next to impossible to have a civil discussion online nowadays about an alternate opinions. It feels like everyone just wants to have their beliefs confirmed and never have their opinions questioned.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I've had plenty of civil discussions online where I had an alternate opinion from the zeitgeist. On Reddit.

Generally speaking, if you aren't alt right scum, people are agreeable. If you believe people should be allowed to live how they want as long as it isn't hurting people, and nobody should be treated differently because of an inherent, born characteristic, people may not be happy with your opinion but they'll at least listen to you.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or maybe up and downvotes are meaningless and karma has no value. I think it's a way of polling opinion on a topic. Lemmy is not Reddit. Users have no accumulated karma, downvotes don't hide comments and Post's default comment sort is by New.

[–] TheDeadGuy@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People are really bent out of shape with others disagreeing with them. You aren't being silenced, you're being polled and that's not a problem.

Now if you are harassed because of it, that's a different subject than a simple downvoted. That's why I love the transparency here

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