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submitted 3 years ago by uncapybarable@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Some mix of wrong and right, the exact proportions of which I'll leave as an exercise to the reader.

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[-] terribleplan@lemmy.nrd.li 10 points 3 years ago

There are a few completely fair points in there calling out what they are legally allowed to do (e.g. they are not directly violating GPL) and are doing (contributing changes back upstream, they claim "always"), that's about the only "right" this reader found.

Have some quotes that demonstrate the "wrong":

I feel that much of the anger from our recent decision around the downstream sources comes from either those who do not want to pay for the time, effort and resources going into RHEL or those who want to repackage it for their own profit. This demand for RHEL code is disingenuous.

Ultimately, we do not find value in a RHEL rebuild and we are not under any obligation to make things easier for rebuilders; this is our call to make.

Simply rebuilding code, without adding value or changing it in any way, represents a real threat to open source companies everywhere. This is a real threat to open source, and one that has the potential to revert open source back into a hobbyist- and hackers-only activity.

[-] kogasa@programming.dev 10 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

I understand "we do not find value in RHEL rebuild." At least, I understand that it means "we do not find the value [to Red Hat] outweighs the cost [to Red Hat]." I don't understand how "simply rebuilding code... represents a real threat to open source companies." It makes it sound like the rebuilders are doing something wrong.

Sure, you can say that it hurts your profits if others are providing an equivalent to your service for free, but if that isn't acceptable, why allow it? Moreso, why allow it for years and then suddenly claim the communities built around that decision are a "threat"?

Maybe I'm misreading, but I think I would respect this position a lot more if it was simply "we can no longer afford the competitive disadvantage," rather than implying various open source communities are actually exploiting and damaging open source.

[-] pete@lemmy.world 1 points 3 years ago

I'm not entirely sure there are a ton of people/companies that are considering rhel licences vs rocky. All the companies I've worked for are considering debian vs rocky at this point. Not huge but 1000-5000 system type companies. I'd guess that's a huge bulk of the market that's using rocky, and also up steaming patches and big reports.

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