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[-] alienanimals@lemmy.world 93 points 2 years ago

Countries like Switzerland don't have mass shootings like the USA, yet they have tons of guns. The lack of mental health support and the orphan crushing machine are a HUGE part of the mass murders here in America.

[-] CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago

The rates of gun ownership between Switzerland and the USA are vastly different. USA ownership is almost double that of Switzerland.

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21379912

I'm not denying your take that it's a multifaceted issue, but equating the gun ownership between Switzerland and the USA doesn't paint an accurate picture.

[-] alienanimals@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago

Despite the USA having double the gun ownership that Switzerland does, the USA has more than 20 times the number of mass shootings. There's definitely more to this issue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_Switzerland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If we're throwing out Wikipedia links, here are the actual laws in Switzerland, many of which the pro-gun community in America staunchly oppose adopting, including the mandatory military service that would actually qualify gun owners to be part of a "well regulated militia".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Switzerland

[-] alienanimals@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Thanks! America could certainly learn from Switzerland on this issue.

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately, they're not interested in learning, especially from other countries.

It's just a way of deflecting blame away from failing gun laws so they can demand that other people spend 50 years building a impossible mental health utopia first.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago

NO ITS JUST GUNS REEEEEE

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