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[–] mwguy@infosec.pub -4 points 10 months ago (13 children)

It's amazing that people can see Apartheid and how it ended and never question Palestinian actions. Apartheid ended because there was a belief in a peaceful future. There's no Mandela in Palestine that can convince the Israeli's that giving up power would lead to peace. And after a 20 year experiment in self rule in Gaza failed; it's hard to see the alternative.

[–] stmcld@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Just fyi. Apartheid didn't end because of peaceful protest.

The ANC had been peacefully opposing the Apartheid government. But that all ended after the Sharpeville massacre commited by the Apartheid government.

Then MK was formed ( uMkhonto we Sizwe). MK was the armed guerilla resistance that Mandela and the ANC saw was needed, because the Apartheid government wasn't giving in to peaceful opposition of their government.

You're probably confusing what people say was a 'peaceful' end to Apartheid because civil war was avoided.

And it was only truly avoided because the resistance had to make so many unfair concessions to the international liberal powers that be ( imf, the US etc.) and the Apartheid government. Otherwise the Apartheid government was gearing up to actually start mass murdering the non white population (aka genocide).

There truly are a lot of parallels between Apartheid south africa and israel

[–] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

don't forget, the MK was also considered a terrorist organization.

[–] stmcld@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Exactly. People don't want to accept it but i see a lot of parallels between MK and Qassam brigades as liberation armed struggle. When peaceful protest fails then violent opposition is inevitable.

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