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Hi all! As promised, here is the proposed text of the newest version of the rules. The staff has gone through like eight drafts and literally thousands and thousands of matrix posts to get here, so please be kind. You can see @limeey's comment on the transparency post if you want more insight into how this sausage was made.

We are opening these rules to commentary from the community before they go into effect. To be clear, this isn't a vote, but we will take all community feedback into account and answer whatever questions we can before finalizing anything.

Please keep in mind that we are not Reddit, we do not have Reddit's resources, and safety and consent are our priorities.

I'll post the draft in two parts in two comments: The new sidebar, and the FAQ/clarifications page.

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[–] Neekaneeka@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Depending on how far the noncon rule applies, I foresee an issue with media sharing.

Very little media will have explicit consent to be shared in our communities, or even social media in general. If we interpret the sharing as part of what you consent to (as is the case with OC but not revenge porn), no found media can be allowed.

If we allow the commonly used fair/similar use principle (found media may typically be shared in the same type of setting it was found) - how do we differentiate between found porn and found revenge porn?

If we mod as a response to reports, as in: we allow it until someone reports this being wrongful content, the rules will be fine, but obscure or poorly modded communities risk becoming seedy and drag the whole instance reputation down.

But these thoughts can't be novel, has anyone checked if there's a well tested out best practice to keep mods, community and admin safe?

[–] TheSillyFunnyGoofyMan@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Consent would also be an issue in that a lot of porn stars have actively stated that certain scenes they have done were not at all consensual.

[–] MikeyMongol@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yup and if people post those scenes and we're aware and reasonably sure that they're noncon, they will be removed. We actually have a (very incomplete) list of specific studios, performers, etc. we are not going to tolerate for that exact reason. Currently we're debating whether to make that list public or not, because on the one hand we don't want to be like "if you want rape and underage content, google these terms" but on the other hand it might prevent people from posting something innocently that they didn't know was bad.

[–] Violetpsychosis@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please share that list. I have no clue which studio's have consent issues.

[–] dandelion@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would second this. On one hand I'm terrified to find out; I'm conflicted enough already about the morality of a lot of the porn industry, but sticking my head in the sand won't help.

I think the number of decent human beings who would use the list to actively blacklist and advocate against bad studios is far greater than the number of diseased individuals who would use it to look up the content for "fun".

[–] kellysunshine@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 year ago

I say share it privately, unless the victims have asked it to be shared widely.

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