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[-] bitfucker@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago

From what I've read, wouldn't this tool become a replacement in the same way wayland replace x11 (different method of escalation and all)? I guess what I was thinking is more like a sudo alternative, like doas for example. In any case, would change like this break a lot of workflow? If so, I doubt it will be the replacement soon.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 16 points 2 years ago

systemd is the opposite of Wayland.

Wayland took a monolithic system (Xorg) and broke it apart (Wayland, compositors) to try to make a smaller, cleaner codebase with separation of concerns.

systemd took an already separated system of discrete, interchangeable components and, like a katamari, rolls along absorbing services and clumping them together into one giant monolithic system. It started out as a replacement for init.d, and then decided it needed to absorb syslog, and then crond, and then mounting /home, and now it wants sudo.

systemd is the "see:" in the definition of "feature envy." Of you look up the "the Unix philosophy", systemd is the exact opposite; people who oppose systemd don't do it for no reason; they oppose it because it violates every tenant of the Unix philosophy.

I would guess the Wayland people would be aghast at the comparison.

[-] bitfucker@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

I mean in the sense that they are replacing the method of escalation, I will not talk about its overall architecture as that is a whole can of worms. I am well aware of how SystemD works and its problem too.

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