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submitted 2 years ago by mfat@lemdro.id to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I used to hate android emulators, since the ones I'd tested on Windows were ad-ridden, slow bloatware.

The other day I needed to run an android app on Fedora 40.

I tried Waydroid and it worked very well. The app ran supersmooth as if it was running natively.

Also the cli syntax was very sane an user friendly.

waydroid app install|run|list ...

So if you need an Android app on linux the experience might be better than what you think it would be.

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[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I meant a desktop Linux distro, not the kernel itself. And Android has a ton of bloatware on top of it so it's not really the same thing. Android has like a double decker kernel

[-] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

AOSP doesn't have that much bloat, it's far lighter then your typical linux distro, It's vendors that bloat it up, Custom roms are extremely light, This is BlissOS running on 2Gb of ram https://files.catbox.moe/4n17z3.mp4.

It's far more responsive then many linux distros would be since android and it's applications are optimized around low ram and low system resource in general

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Android can run on 2Gb but the experience won't be great. Linux with something like JWM or Xfce runs way better. Android 12 and higher are especially heavy. You can notice it by comparing on relatively low end devices (with like a Unisoc T606 or something). Android 14 runs better but it has ads-related stuff in it. And Android kernel itself has a lot of unnecessary stuff. They say it's better for performance but bruh how can a more bloated thing be better? Real tests speak for themselves. Don't trust theory and Google's changelogs.

[-] bitfucker@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

This is for the general case, size doesn't always translate to performance. I haven't read the AOSP source so I wouldn't know for sure, but the general case for any algorithm is that. Sometimes having more code can result in faster performance due to how the algorithm works.

[-] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

its easy to test BlissOS is open source and can be installed on any relatively modern PC or in a VM, coms with foss and gapps variants, install foss

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Yes but let's judge based on the practical tests and not the theoretical stuff

[-] bitfucker@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

I am merely rebutting your point about how more stuff can make things perform faster. Multi-tasking comes to mind. In a simple program, a task may be run in a procedural manner without interruption. Say for example, network access. The network stack must wait for the reply to arrive, but since the program is simple, it really is waiting for it doing nothing, wasting time that can be used to perform other computations. So the code will get bigger, but the performance is increased by reducing time wasted waiting for resources. By size alone, it is more bloated, but it is increasing performance. And as I said, I haven't looked at AOSP source code so my comment is not directed towards that point as I have no knowledge about low level android stuff.

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