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[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (12 children)

But the AI isn't "recalling" in the same way you do, it doesn't "remember" what it "read", it "reads" on demand and has instant access to essentially all of the information ~~available online~~ it was trained on (E: though it's becoming more or less the same thing, and is definitely the same when it comes to law books for example), from which it collects the necessary details if and when it needs it.

So yes, it is literally "sat" there with all the books open in front of it, and the ability to pinpoint a bit of information in any one of all the books in milliseconds.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (11 children)

It doesn’t read on demand, it reads once when it’s being trained, and it later recalls what it learnt from that training.

Training LLMs takes a very long time and a lot of hardware power.

[–] pop@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

If it doesn't read it on demand, how does it sometimes spill its training data verbatim then?

The trained model shouldn't have that, right? But it does?

https://m.slashdot.org/story/422185

[–] 8uurg@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

These models have so many parameters that, while insufficient to memorize all text it has ever seen, it can end up memorizing some of the content. It is the difference between being able to recall a random passage versus recalling the exact thing you need. Both allow you to spill content verbatim, but one is problematic while the other can be helpful.

There are techniques to allow it it 'read on demand', but they are not part of the core model (i.e. the autocmpletion model / LLM) and are tacked on top of it. For example, you can tie it search engine, which Microsoft's copilot does, and is something which I don't think is enabled for ChatGPT by default. Or allow it to query a external data bank (Retrieval Augmented Generation).

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