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[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well, go find a candidate. Then we can take the option seriously. Till then, you're just shouting without helping.

[-] Emmy 1 points 2 years ago

Any participation in the discussion helps. Otherwise we stagnate with 80 year old leadership and end up here again in 4 years.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

It wouldn't surprise me if there isn't an election in 2028 if Trump wins.

[-] Emmy 1 points 2 years ago

Which is why it is so essential we get it right. And the fact there's even discussion about it means Biden's the wrong guy for the job.

[-] IzzyJ@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago

There is noone who can unambiguously win. Most voters are fascists. Thats the reality the dnc must politic around

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

Most voters are fascists.

They aren't! Left leaning voters are a majority, the problem is we're suffering under a biased electoral system and a lot of them have lost faith in the potential for government to actually do things for them so many don't turn out. Issue polling is usually even further left. Stir them up and give them hope for the future rather than just saying "what are you gonna do, he's worse" as they jettison another ideal to chase the center. It's a huge problem that right now we're not up 3-4%, because we need to overshoot to manage the EC bias, and that's not because the country has gained a lot of fascists, it's because he's lost a lot of black, Hispanic, Muslim, and youth votes.

[-] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Note I said VOTERS, not PEOPLE. If you dont turn out, you are not a voter

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

That's just as untrue. Democrats almost always win the popular vote and have been overperforming in every election since Trump. And if you dismiss the idea of a marginal voter and pumping turnout, then nothing you have to say about politics is important because you're just completely ignoring a critical component in what determines results.

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