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[–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 124 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Alright, fuck Republicans, I'm onboard with that.

Living wage, I'm onboard with that too.

Fuck landlords as well, I'm waay onboard with that.

How about we raise minimum wage, but also regulate the hell out of several sectors so that the wealthy don't just consume whatever we raise it to with obscene inflation, otherwise what's the point?

[–] Chaosl3gion@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I had to scroll to the bottom to see this. This is what happens every time the wage increases. No point in increasing the wage when everyone else increases the price. Can't agree with your statement more.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 46 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The prices are rising without a matching increase in wages. The increase in wages has no significant impact on the increase in prices.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (5 children)

It's just about chasing a never ending profit that's higher than last quarter's profit. It was never about inflation, it's the cancer that is unregulated capitalism.

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[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 8 points 6 months ago (13 children)

If there truly were no point then it wouldn't have so much opposition from the wealthy.

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 51 points 6 months ago (16 children)

if you want affordable housing we need to de-commodify it and get the investors out. no more airbnb, no more one investor group owning 10s of thousands of single family homes. Dumping regular people's money into this system, even if we give them a bunch extra, is only gonna drive prices even further up. The necessities of living are not speculation opportunities for the ultra rich.

[–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Right, I hate when people ask me if I want to buy a house to invest or to live.

Bitch, I can barely afford one and if I could buy multiple, I wouldn't because I'm not a piece of shit.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 42 points 6 months ago (17 children)

When the minimum wage is not livable, you subsidize their employers with your taxes.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 27 points 6 months ago (12 children)

except democrats dont care either

start building a new system now.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We don't have a minimum wage in Sweden. Wages are mostly dictated by negotiations between employers and unions.

Unions are important.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

thats also the reason the ones in power hate them so much!

unions are definetly part of the solution.

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[–] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 9 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Fight for a better system but still vote democrats. Voting for the lesser evil gives you the lesser evil.

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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I would argue you need unions more. There's no minimum wage in Iceland because we have people who negotiate it for us.

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[–] Gluten6970@lemm.ee 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You forget that dems vote against it as well: Kyrsten Sinema, Joe Manchin, Jeanne Shaheen, Maggie Hassan, Jon Tester, Tom Carper, Chris Coons, Angus King...

You also forget that a $15/hour minimum wage isn't even a living wage in current year and that's what they voted against. Both sides fight for billionaires, stop deluding yourself.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (14 children)

Ah the DINOs. Well two are out at least.

Both sides fight for billionaires, stop deluding yourself.

Nobody's deluding themselves. I'm pretty sure we all know full well that both sides fight for billionaires, it's a question of degree and that degree matters. Is $15/hr more or less than $7.25/hr?

IOW, it's a start... it's progress. I get that the progress is frustratingly slow. But once you have $15/hr you can keep incrementing it, especially at the state level.

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's also an argument to be made for building better cities and more affordable housing (both more affordable and more of it), as well as building a society where you don't have to buy a car to participate. Life could be a lot more affordable if we didn't arrange our policies to make it so expensive.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Then we would need to get rid of lobbyists

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Repugs want nothing less than slavery

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Don't forget the decision banning non-competes. Apparently the decision went along 'party lines', with you know who Gop trying to keep them. But nooooooo, bOtH sIdEs SaMe.

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[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (4 children)

If there's no corresponding regulation on rent prices, minimum wage is irrelevant.

Raise the minimum wage to a bazillion dollars? Great! Rent is now three hundred bajillion!

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Raise the minimum wage to $25/hr, tie it to inflation... Use the $67billion a year spent on section 8 housing to build people houses which they end up owning, instead of shoveling all that money into slumlords' pockets. Flood the housing market with supply to keep the prices down, even as people are able to afford more.

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Biden was the Dem that passed many of the Republican bills including making it impossible for students to declare Bankruptcy on their student loans.

Current Dems are more right than old Republicans. Republicans just went even more to the right.

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[–] Ballistic_86@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (9 children)

There is a mentality from Boomers and passed along to Gen X that full-time work does not entitle you to anything. That there are just millions of jobs in America that shouldn’t be required to pay people enough to live in the community they work, or anywhere for that matter. As long as that mentality aligns with the goals of capitalism, nothing will change.

You will hear all the excuses in the world justifying low-paying jobs. “Just get a better job if you don’t like the pay” “Those jobs are only for high school kids” “If they raise the pay they will raise the prices” The list goes on. None of them make a ton of sense if you explore the idea any further.

The idea of working hard and being, eventually, rewarded with good pay has been dead for decades. It is widely accepted that the easiest way to increase your pay is moving to a different company, which speaks a lot about longevity in this late-stage capitalism era most of us are living in today.

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (4 children)

It's pretty funny to me to see Americans claiming that a full-time job should be sufficient to have your basic needs met - as if the unemployed should live in dire poverty.

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[–] scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Video evidence of a democrat voting down a minimum wage increase.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

And somehow there always seems to be just enough of these "mOdErAteS" to kneecap a Democratic majority from doing what they promised when they get power.

Must be a coincidence 🤔

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[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (7 children)

My answer is more radical. Tie their tax breaks to the linearly interpolated value of the median wage in the company between minimum wage and whatever is actually a living wage. At halfway between the two they get an equilibrium point, below it is a harsh penalty, above is an increasing percentage of their tax break. Wonder how long it would take of McDonalds owing an obscene penalty on their taxes before they started actually paying employees.

I would also be in favor of levying MASSIVE corporate tax penalties for every employee on government assistance. At this point, government programs are less socialism for the people and more socialism for the likes of WalMart.

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