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Not surprised. It's like going to Facebook and spreading information about how vaccines save lives. You will be downvoted to hell lol.
Any decent person has already left Reddit or still there observing the shitshow. Those who tries to comment (and defend Reddit) are literally the remaining idiots. They probably also have Facebook and spend another 50% time there arguing about "Biden bad Trump good".
Well then they will dwell in that corporate cesspool. I very much enjoy alternative and even it sparked my interest of free software as a whole because guys I have enough of those huge corps meddling and plotting and sticking their ugly heads everywhere and just ruining what should be the common good really
I'm sorry. I'm here and done with Reddit too, but it's not a public service. They're well within their rights to do this and even more anti user stuff, which they will, but that's not immoral or against the law.
This is why we have laws against Monopoly. All these people thinking there should be laws and rules for how businesses should steward their free user base is pretty wild to me.
Public services are run by the public for the public good (ha -- supposed to be) and businesses make money. Reddit isn't PBS or your local library and would you really even want that?
We just did this with Facebook exodus right? "You mean _we're _ the product????"
I'm confused as to what your point is. Yes, companies are inherently scummy, and will do whatever is in their best interests rather than the best interests of the people. So we, the people, need to follow that up by doing what's in our best interests - namely, fighting against the scummy company policies.
Nobody was surprised when Reddit turned scummy, we're all aware that companies are made to generate income and will behave as such, but the thing that keeps them in line is the people who stand up to them. It doesn't matter that we're the product rather than the customer, if we stop acting as they want us to, we have the power to hit them where it hurts and destabilize their profits.
If a wild animal attacked you, you wouldn't stand there and say "They've gotta eat - it's natural for them to kill me." You would fight back, because your life matters more to you than it does to the animal. It's the same with companies - it's not about whether it's in their nature to behave as they do, it's about whether you as an individual want to stand by and let them do it.
Yeah -- You just leave and use better stuff. My point was I get a sense a lot of people want more done (legally?) to force them to do things with the mods or subs or whatever, which I'm not for and don't even understand what it looks like. I guess my other point was of course this happened it was always going to happen.
Lemmy and the Fediverse is a cool solve to make that maybe not true again (but probably will find someone to still be true)
Ah, gotcha. Well, leaving is exactly how we fight; we're the product after all - nobody shops at an empty store. It sounds like we're on the same page in that regard. As for legal changes, you're right; that avenue doesn't have a leg to stand on, but I don't think many people are seriously thinking we'll be able to change the laws to fight something like Reddit.
I can definitely get annoyed by how black and white everything always has to be on the internet.
Can I be upset that Reddit is killing my 3rd party app? Absolutely Can I also realise that Reddit is not a charity and that in this economy, they are no longer going to subsidize 3rd party app developers? Absolutely
Like, I left Reddit because I think their official app sucks balls. I had a 3rd party app I loved. I'm upset. But it's also weird to see Meta, Alphabet, Spotify, Amazon, etc. lay off their staff and at the same time expect Reddit to willingly hand their content over for free to 3rd party apps.
I'm upset but I'm not naïve.
There is a middle ground between "free" and "prohibitively expensive". Reddit did not choose it. This was about killing the apps that their users preferred.
This shit right here is why I don't want to see votes on Jerboa. Bloody depressing.
