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This is very troubling, and I'm not even sure where to start. I recently received an email message from my ISP which alerted me to an incoming update. I didn't worry too much since this is obviously not the first update they've ever pushed through.

However, after this update, I noticed that my guest connections and some other things had changed / disappeared. I logged on to my router, and I immediately noticed my custom password had been reset to the default. No problem, I entered it.

At this point, I saw that all of my options were greyed out. I could change the password, which I did, but nothing else. I immediately called my ISP.

I was told that I would have to use their app now, so as much as I dislike using proprietary phone apps, I conceded and installed the app through the Play store.

However, the agent was not entirely honest with me. I still can't bifurcate my 2.4g and 5g connections, nor can I add or remove any guest connections. I immediately enabled "privacy mode" via the app, which purportedly prevents information from being collected by something called "HomePass," and I "Delete[d] Guard events" whatever the hell that means, but this seems really troubling. I can no longer access my modem/router settings via the normal interface, but have to use an Android app?

There is only one other ISP in my area. They have much worse/slower service, but should I switch, or is this just the "new normal"? Does what I'm describing even make sense? I'm not a tech expert, but I feel like I've self-taught myself how to navigate these settings, and learned from others in online forums, but now ... an Android app?

I'd appreciate any advice. I'd even be willing to purchase my own modem/router instead of using the one from my ISP, if that fixes this mess.

Edit: So I need my own router, at least. I did some research, and these are the ones I can get locally that are within my budget:

  • TP-Link Archer AC1900 Dual-Band Mu-Mimo Wi-Fi Router with Gigabit Port

  • Linksys AC1200 Dual Band WiFi 5 Router

  • TP-Link Archer AX1500 WiFi 6 Dual-Band Wireless Router | up to 1.5 Gbps Speeds

  • TP-Link Archer C54 | AC1200 MU-MIMO Dual-Band WiFi Router

  • NETGEAR - Nighthawk AC1900 WiFi Router, 1.9Gbps (R6900) I’VE BEEN WARNED AGAINST NETGEAR THOUGH IN OTHER FORUMS

  • TP-Link | AX1800 4 Stream Dual-Band WiFi 6 Wireless Router | up to 1.8 Gbps Speeds

  • TP-Link Archer AX3000 | 4 Stream Dual-Band WiFi 6 Wireless Router | up to 3 Gbps Speeds

  • Linksys E7350 AX1800 Wi-Fi 6 Wireless Router

Am I right in thinking the TP-Link AX3000 is best?

Edit 2: At first, I bought the Netgear AC1900, which seemed like a great deal. Turns out it was unusable without creating a netgear account, so I returned it in exchange for the TP-Link Archer AX1500, and it appears to be working! I got everything set up pretty close to the way it was before, except even better.

Once I save money, I'll also invest in a different modem and return this one to my ISP.

This was a big wake-up call for me in terms of privacy. I never listened to people saying not to use your ISP's equipment because I always trusted my ISP (it's not one of the big name ones). Never trust a company. Lesson learned. I appreciate all the responses I got! This community is great!

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[–] Hyzerflip@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You MAY be able to use that existing router/modem as just a modem by putting it in Bridge Mode or equivalent which disables any routing and WiFi and into just a modem.

[–] NateSwift@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

This is pretty normal in the US if you’re using the ISP provided router

[–] SplicedBrainwrap@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I always own my own modem and router, just go that way. Check your isp for which modems are compatible with the service and check the latest reviews for a good router.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are you talking about your Modem/router that came from the company?

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[–] loopy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do any of you have a recommendation for a fiber modem? I always used my own for cable but am trying fiber optic. I am in a similar situation as OP, but was just going to connect my old router to their fiber modem/router and try to turn off their router function.

And for that matter, a router brand to stick with? I have had good luck with Netgear but am seeing advice against it. I mainly just want a good QOS to prioritize video chats and casual gaming.

[–] frostycakes@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

It depends, does your fiber ISP just have an Ethernet jack going to the modem they gave you, with an ONT (the part that takes in the physical fiber and outputs Ethernet) on the outside of your home or in your building's telecom room (if you're in an apartment or condo), or does it have the actual fiber strand entering your unit and passing directly into the modem device?

If it's the latter, odds are you'll need to keep their modem (as it serves as the ONT as well), since a lot of fiber ISPs are extremely picky about what connects directly to their optical network. You should be able to put it into bridge mode, connect it with Ethernet, and let whatever router you buy handle things like DHCP. If the former (this is how my fiber setup is), you should be able to connect your own equipment directly, so long as you have things like PPPoE credentials and whatever VLAN tag settings your ISP requires available to put in to the router you purchase.

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