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R is a consonant (indicating "a") but also if you say the word R it starts with a vowel (indicating "an")

both look wrong :(

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As others have already said, you go with the initial sound rather than the written letters. The written word is mostly built around conveying speech, so the rules fit what you would use if reading out loud. There are plenty of cases where writing conveys other cues than verbal, but the core of it still applies to sound.

That actually applies to most punctuation as well, depending on how one defines "most".

Any initialism is going to be counted as the first letter being a word for the purpose of a/an usage, when said letters are pronounced as letters. In the case of RTS (an initialism), you wouldn't ever say it as a word, unlike RAM, which is almost always pronounced as a word and is thus is an acronym. That's the difference between those things, btw. We tend to call all of them acronyms, and that's okay, but there is a difference.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] ReCursing@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Which is more comfortable to say? It's that one

[–] KarthNemesis@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

literally neither was. they both looked and felt very alien.

i've pinned my suddenly having weird, "grammar is starkly bizarre" issues down to being a side effect of adjusting my meds. hoping that fades later.

edit: and also i do think your statement is a very practical answer in a general sense :)

[–] MD756@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

As a gamer, I’m going to assume RTS stands for Real-Time Strategy. I read somewhere a long time ago that just because a term is in the form of an acronym, that doesn’t change what comes before it. So in this case, it’s proper to use ‘a’ rather than ‘an.’ However, I acknowledge that saying ‘a RTS’ sounds icky, so I tend to use the “incorrect,” ‘an RTS.’

[–] KarthNemesis@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I read somewhere a long time ago that just because a term is in the form of an acronym, that doesn’t change what comes before it.

I was taught this as well, but unfortunately I think you and I were misled.
Still, they both sound "icky" to me, ha.

[–] GammaGames@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago

It’s not about being a consonant, it’s about starting with a vowel sound. So you’d use an

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 1 points 6 months ago

It's based on how it's pronounced, not written, so it's "an R-T-S", or "a real-time strategy game".

[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

The general rule is to go by sound.

Read aloud, RTS is pronounced "are-tee-ess", so it starts with a vowel sound, so it's "an RTS".

The same rule also applies to regular words. For example, "an hour" is preferred because the "h" is silent.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

An RTS.

Acronyms are generally proceeded by "an", not a.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's nothing to do with it being an acronym, it's just because the first sound pronounced is a vowel sound. Similarly, it's "an FPS", "an ATM", and "an SUV", but "a PPV event" and "a USB stick"

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 4 points 6 months ago

Fair enough and spot on.

a USB stick, while correct, challenges how I would have described it before you referenced it to me.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 6 months ago

Merriam-Webster states that "the deciding factor for which of these words should be used is the sound that begins the word which follows the indefinite article, rather than the letter which does." So "an RTS" or "a real-time strategy game" would both be appropriate.