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Update: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-outage-affects-bing-copilot-duckduckgo-and-chatgpt-internet-search/

It's also important to note that ChatGPT internet search and DuckDuckGo are experiencing similar issues because they use the Bing API.

UPDATE 2

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 234 points 7 months ago (23 children)

Just post your searches and questions here and we'll try to figure it out.

[–] AngryishHumanoid@lemmy.world 54 points 7 months ago (16 children)

Is Natalie Portman single? Follow up: Does Natalie Portman have low standards? I'll have a couple dozen more depending on the search results of this one.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 48 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's Natalie Portperson, keep up.

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[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 38 points 7 months ago (15 children)

Thankfully this will be a private search like DuckDuckGo.

I need an answer to how do I make my peepee become larger?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 36 points 7 months ago

See results for Natalie Portman

[–] tudor@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

As an AI language model, I can’t help you with that.

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[–] Edgarallenpwn@midwest.social 33 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Why is it usually DNS?

(Network outages at work today. Guess what it was?)

[–] grandkaiser@lemmy.world 42 points 7 months ago (4 children)

DNS engineer here.

It's always DNS because no one wants to hire us. We're prima donnas that don't work much and demand large salaries. Companies think they can get away with having some random network guy "learn a bit of DNS" and it works!!... For a while... Then it fails catestrophically and the DNS engineer that was let go to "save costs" smugly watches them crash and burn. The job is super easy and simple until you're 48 hours into troubleshooting and the CTO is lighting money on fire trying to get the network back online. A big company can easily burn a DNS engineers 10 years salary in costs if they have a single large DNS failure (security or downtime).

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[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Is it safe to consume breast milk bought on Facebook marketplace?

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[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

cats are liquid lore what is going on

[–] TheOSINTguy@sh.itjust.works 29 points 7 months ago (3 children)

O.J Simpson car chase recreated in doom.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 176 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (22 children)

It looks like Bing is down, and all Bing-backed search engines are too.

https://downdetector.com/status/duckduckgo/

https://downdetector.com/status/bing/

I'm kind of surprised that the Bing guys don't seem to have a system status page (that I could find) and haven't managed to have any kind of status message put on their main page.

EDIT: This appears to be their official Twitter account, which is also silent on the matter as of this writing. If they're unable to update their website, they might put something there as a way to get information out.

https://x.com/bing/

EDIT2: This is apparently their blog. Nothing there either as of this writing, but again, might try checking there, as it's another route they might use to get information out if they cannot do so via their main page.

https://blogs.bing.com/

EDIT3: Yahoo Search appears to be working just fine, though my understanding is that they are backed by Bing.

https://search.yahoo.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Search

On July 29, 2009, Microsoft and Yahoo! announced a deal in which Bing would henceforth power Yahoo! Search, putting an end to Yahoo!'s in-house crawler.[2] For four years between 2015 until the end of 2018, it was powered by Google,[3] before returning to Microsoft Bing again.

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Companies need to stop using TWITTER for anything. They’re walling up the garden we built, and it’s a cesspool of bots and run by a megalomaniac charlatan.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 154 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 182 points 7 months ago (2 children)
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[–] YellowBendyBoy@lemmy.world 130 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Still down 2 hours later. Guess AI has taken over Microsoft you guys. The robot uprising begins…

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Then, considering that Google is up and running, we can already guess wich horse is on top right now. 😂

[–] foxymulder@lemmy.ml 56 points 7 months ago (9 children)

We don't know who struck first, us or them. But we do know it was us that scorched the sky

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[–] critical@reddthat.com 88 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Qwant, who claim that they have their own index, is also down. Coincidence...

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 7 months ago

Qwant uses their own index, but supplements it with Bing if they don't have enough info (or for images).

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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 77 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (59 children)

Okay.

Now that we already know we are pretty much at the hands of one pupeteer, what options are there?

I already read about Kagi (apologies if mispelled) but I like to write as a hobby and 300 searches per month go fast.

What other options are there?

Edit:

For those who may be arriving now:

  • Kagi seems to be a good option for an alternative search engine; it is a paid service, for which I don't have the €€€ right now. Many speak very well about it.
  • SearXNG is a thing as well, to my understanding a decentralized search system. Worth the try, in my opinion. If it's something that is decentralized, it is worthy to support and divulge.
  • There is mojeek.com, supposedly not very good but any option that goes against the monopoly is worth the try! I'm going to try this one.
  • Brave.com is an option but is a bit shady.
  • You should try Ecosia if you want to support reforestation efforts. Read somewhere in the thread it is part of the Bing ecosystem.
  • Yep is a thing as well. Somewhere in the thread, a lemmy points they use the search results for AI trainning. So... That is that.
  • And it seems there is a search engine by the name of dogpile.com.
  • Startpage is another search engine (portal?) suggested by another user. I've used it before and like it. Read somewhere it somehow piped a standard google search but removed tracking and ads.
  • and I just remembered Presearch.com. This is a really shady one (crypto warning!) that I suspect is a fork/collab with Brave Browser. I've used it, they have reward-per-search reward system (or had) where they give you crypto for every search. Good results, some that don't come up neither on DDG nor Google.

p.p.s Should I start categorizing these from "shady" to "worthy"?

p.p.s 2 Does anyone remember StumbleUpon? I know it was never a search engine to begin with but it was the best source of good internet content I ever got acquainted to.

Can we get something like that back?

[–] LucidBoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 7 months ago (3 children)
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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 72 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Legit thought it was just me. I was like wtf is happening

Edit: searx it is then, https://searx.space

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[–] kia@lemmy.ca 65 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Apparently the whole ecosystem is down... DDG, Bing, etc.

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[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 63 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Worlds largest tech-megacorporation is unable to keep their shit up and running. Lmao.

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[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I was screen sharing to someone when this happened and they asked why I don't use Google when other search engines are this unreliable. Despite me explaining it wasn't the usual, It was still pretty embarrassing lol. Wonder if DDG has the resources for an independent index.

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago

Still down.

Screenshot_20240523_101421_Photo Editor

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)
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[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Firebirdie713@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I picked a good day to switch to SwissCow lol

https://swisscows.com/en/web?query=%s

Free, uses it's own index, focus on privacy. If there is anything bad about it though, please let me know. It can be hard to find unbiased data on search engines when you ultimately need to use a search engine to find the info, ime.

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[–] mashbooq@infosec.pub 27 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Yeah Startpage and Ecosia too

[–] Gamers_Mate@kbin.social 67 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I think having all the search engines being front ends for just bing and google has just revealed an obvious weakness.

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[–] andrade@infosec.pub 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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