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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, we survived him once, we can do it again.

I'd still prefer to not get set back another decade by having him in office, and the danger of him never leaving office by way of dismantling all of the safeguards that prevented his coup in 2021 can't be ignored.

If there are ways I can resist, I will. If there are people I can help just by reaching out, I will extend my hand to them. I won't let Trump's hateful rhetoric poison my humanity or turn me against my fellow man.

If things get bad enough, my girlfriend and I have a "bug-out" plan that we discussed and agreed upon that basically amounts to - withdraw everything from our financial accounts, sell everything that isn't nailed down if we can or abandon everything in place, round up the family and buy plane/boat tickets to head somewhere that has low requirements for citizenship or will accept American petitions for political asylum if things get desperate enough. This is in the worst-case scenario where the U.S. descends into a full fascist/totalitarian state and there is a clear and present danger of us getting killed just for being political dissidents.

Ideally, we'd like to stay here and hope that things get better, but every year things seem to get worse and worse. The American Dream is dead and rotting, and we can just barely see a pinhole of light at the end of the tunnel for us to be able to achieve a life, but we're both left wondering if we're even going to be able to hold on to that if we do manage to seize it given how much the economy is backsliding each year.

tl;dr: the plan is to keep our heads down, but our spirits as high as possible, and always know where the closest exit is in case of an emergency.

[–] Lloyd_the_lloyd@r.nf 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The problem is knowing it's time to leave when you're still able to leave...

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[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hope it's not as bad as I think ("as bad as I think" means "mass killings;") What else can I do? Everyone else here seems to be privileged enough to have the skills or plain cash to say "I'll go somewhere else," isn't as worried as they should be, or think they're Apocalypse Badass Man (see: accelerationists.) That's not me. I'm unskilled, poor, I have the self-introspection to know I don't have what it takes to be a revolutionary.

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[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Same thing as last time.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

As a person made utterly destitute and disabled by a series of crimes committed against me, well, I have SSDI and thats basically it.

Cost of living is way lower in Ecuador, i can relearn the Spanish I knew in high school, and theres a good number of affordable cities and towns there with considerably better crime statistics and public transportation than anywhere I can afford in the US.

I have done the math and it would be vastly more cost and time effective to move abroad... as I have been evicted, and basically that means I can't rent anywhere in the US for at least two years.

I am seriously considering noping the fuck out if Trump wins. Spent most of my adult life advocating for minorities, the poor, the disenfranchised, and now I am too fucking tired, in too much pain and too broke.

(Ironically my last job was at a non profit assisting the homeless, who didn't give a fuck about me becoming homeless.)

Not like anyone will miss me, every family member and friend I thought I had either committed crimes against me, told me to fuck off, or told me that they what was happening to me was too emotionally traumatic for them to deal with right now.

Of course this plan goes to shit if Trump and the Republicans somehow massively defund or cancel Social Security.

I used to think they would not be so stupid as to actually do that, as... an insane number of Trump's core voter base rely on SSI ot SSA or SSDI... but obviously with the MAGA crowd, anything is possible.

Guess I can always teach English. Maybe if I can ever walk again I can guide tours.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

as I have been evicted, and basically that means I can't rent anywhere in the US for at least two years.

There are an increasing number of sublets and private rentals in my area, that don't check rental history. Everything is fairly under the table, month to month with no binding leases, for better or worse depending on your situation. Just bringing it up as a potential avenue to consider, maybe there are options in your area too.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Can you like dm me where this place is?

I am basically bound to my current roach motel that just happens to allow month to month rent, without kicking you out after 3 weeks.

I have been using a shit tier 4g phone for months now trying to find no credit check apartments. Everything is a scam, and none the shady apartments seem to actually list online anywhere.

'Look for private rentals!' Is good advice but... with what search engine, what rental website actually has a private rentals filter that actually works? Ive not found one.

Craigslist is bone dry where I am, and the few times a listing pops up, either they don't respond or they don't allow evictions or , again, its a scam.

I bussed halfway across the country to find the cheapest motel rates I could.

Im not a resident of the state as I do not live in a residence.

I dont qualify for rental assistance as I do not live in a residence.

And I don't qualify for homeless assistance as I am not homeless.

Its fucking wonderful.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 7 points 6 months ago

Vote. He's not allowed to turn this country into a "shithole country" in his words.

[–] urtiscay@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

My plan is to leave the US my rent ends in November of 2025 so if trump wins I'm probably be leaving country

[–] TheWoozy@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I'm a govt. contractor. I will retire the day before he's swarn in. I'm not sure what I'll do beyond that. A lot of Americans already retire to Costa Rica or Panama. I'll have to decide whether to run away or stay & resist.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (15 children)

Candian here.

Do not come north.

We cannot house and feed you. Most of you will die of exposure the first winter you are here.

If you have thoughts of coming here with guns and taking our homes or food by force know that most of us outside the cities are armed, we're just not so scared that we constantly show off our guns and feel no need to go prepared for combat to buy donuts or groceries.

So, Mexico is your best bet, if they will take you. I bet you'll be glad that all the talk of a border wall was just neo-fascist virtue signaling.

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[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago
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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 months ago

Feel a crushing sense of despair at the state of my country and probably get more involved in local issues.

[–] n0m4n@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I would immediately erase everything that I have ever posted, anywhere. I would go underground as much as possible, online speaking. When the purges come, I would be a target.

IDK if we would leave. We are not prime immigrant status, not qualifying for Canada. That shocked me, TBF.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, I'm definitely going to lose my job if he gets elected. So I guess I'll do one good thing with my life.

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)
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