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@linux I just switched from windows 10 to Ubuntu Studio last Saturday, just wrapped up the transition yesterday. I love Linux. It is how a computer should be. I lost access to my audio interface, Keyscape VST and Valorant, but I have gained so much more. The Terminal is so much better than Windows neutered offering

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[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought this was a hilarious post until I realized the title was truncated.

I thought it was going to be "I love my new Linux machine, but I've effectively lost access to the box and have to start over."

[–] VENMusica@mastodon.social 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

@dingus I had seen a video of a musician who ran manjaro but killed his system, so that scared me off manjaro haha wanted to try it originally but Ubuntu studio seemed safer

[–] vettnerk@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Timeshift is your friend. I always make a snapshot when I start mucking about with kernel configs or modules

[–] VENMusica@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago

@vettnerk I have an external HDD with a lot of shit on it and can't configure for timeshift backups ATM , but I realize the urgency of putting a backup up sooner than later

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Manjaro is not your friend. Too bad you did not land on EndeavourOS. Good luck with Ubuntu.

[–] heimchen@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

I love Linux, but it taught me to make backups

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Valorant uses the Vanguard anti-cheat, which is technically a rootkit. Riot had the freedom to do what they wanted to do with your PC if they wanted to.

Good thing you lost access to that nightmare.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

I wanted to try it once and it did not run. Probably takes issue with software used to configure peripherals or smth. Even just the fact you have to reboot to install a game is ridiculous.

[–] BlueEther@no.lastname.nz 21 points 1 year ago

I love the place the title was truncated - often how Linux seems to be when the new start to tinker

[–] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

sadly, lemmy neutered this post

[–] the_postminimalist@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm wanting to do a full transition to Linux for audio work, but I couldn't get Wwise to work, even with Wine/Bottles. Just will refuse to install. Identical issue on other people's linux systems.

I also started with Ubuntu Studio, but 90% of the stuff it comes with is irrelevant to pro audio, and it was just running super slow. OpenSUSE Leap works like a charm for everything (except Wwise of course). Though Leap might be getting axed and no longer worked on in the future (nothing is certain yet). So I might also try Debian.

Because Wwise wasn't working, I never got around to testing out all my VSTs though. Have you tried using either Wine or Bottles for them?

[–] VENMusica@mastodon.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@the_postminimalist maybe just use Kubuntu as that is what Ubuntu studio is based on, it is recommended for beginners as well

[–] the_postminimalist@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't like a lot of the stuff Ubuntu comes with. The thing I liked about OpenSUSE is the advanced options of being able to select exactly what you want to install on there. Debian is also attractive to me because it comes with a more proper minimal install. I like having a higher control over my install, and don't want to have a desktop environment anyway.

Honestly, there wasn't a single piece of software in Ubuntu Studio that I wanted except for Gimp, Carla and maybe Pure Data. I don't even like the preconfigured sound server, since I just use PipeWire instead of Jack. It's easier and faster to install what I do want from a minimal install of Debian than it is to uninstall everything in ubuntu studio. I also didn't like snaps, and any flavour of Ubuntu was just really slow. If you already like most of the stuff it comes with, then hey that's awesome!

[–] Toidi@artemis.camp 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Had almost the exact same experience with Ubuntu studio when setting it up for my son. Fantastically easy to install but ended up with just an overwhelming amount of ‘stuff’ there we really didn’t need.

Carla, Cadence, Audacity, Ardour, Guitarix, Hydrogen, Couple of VST synths to get you started and you have a basic studio that can be installed and ran on almost any Linux Distro.

[–] VENMusica@mastodon.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Toidi @the_postminimalist haha I ended up getting rid of all of what you listed , but for someone just starting out and doesn't have money for much, its perfect

[–] Toidi@artemis.camp 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah there is just so much choice now with Linux audio, all of those above are good for beginners. My son regularly uses Guitarix and hydrogen when he is working on something new, before the band get together with the real hardware. Ardour is a great introductory DAW that people can learn before they move on to something like Reaper or pro tools.

With the introduction of pipewire as well recently, the whole Alsa, jack, pulse nightmare is rapidly looking like a thing of the past.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I lost access to my audio interface, Keyscape VST and Valorant

If those are Windows things you've got Wine that might work, or running full blown Windows in a virtual machine. You have all the options now.

[–] cheer@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Valorant uses a kernel-level anti-cheat, so most likely will never work with Linux

[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wine almost certainly won't work for an audio interface. A lot of them use kernel drivers. When I got an M2 Mac, my audio interface didn't work. The driver was apparently written in x86 assembly. It actually has tons of issues on ryzen CPUs as well.

After getting my M2 Mac, I upgraded to a more modern interface that doesn't use those types of drivers, so it's far more portable.

I don't have a lot of experience with wine, and the experience that I have is a few years old at this point. But doesn't it have limited compatibility with USB devices? Some audio interface are PCIe cards, but I think the vast majority are USB interfaces. That might make it complicated.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

In that case I'd go for a VM, it's chunkier but more complete than Wine will ever be.

[–] VENMusica@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@db2 keyscape does not run in wine, install window does not show, I wish it did though.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just curious, how are you trying to install it?

[–] VENMusica@mastodon.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@db2 keyscape? There is an installer online I downloaded, I have USB sticks as well, but have not tried them, wine is installed, runs well for everything else

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

I mean how are you trying to install it with wine? Like just double clicking the exe, doing it via commandline, using the wine settings installer gui, etc?

[–] chayleaf@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you might be able to run Keyscape via yabridge

[–] VENMusica@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago

@chayleaf the problem is the install doesn't run in wine, window doesn't show, it seems no one has figured that out yet