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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 159 points 5 months ago (23 children)

Getting worse is putting it lightly.

Get the fuck off Google services if you can. Highly recommend Proton mail and drive as a replacement.

[–] wingsfortheirsmiles@feddit.uk 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Moved to Protonmail earlier this year, just cancelled my Drive sub and am looking at switching to Mega

[–] Nikki@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

can vouch for mega, been using it for 8 years now with no real issues. only sticking point is file download limits with Firefox, and thats just because im too lazy to download the desktop app

[–] tibi@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I hate services that force you to download an app when the functionality could be provided in browser. Apps have a lot more permissions to access things that wouldn't be accessible in browser.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

....tell me more of these proton mail services of which you speak!

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's like Gmail except it has a proper dark mode, an actually functional search feature, a functional and user-friendly mail filtering system, you can actually block senders, "All Mail" actually shows you all mail, and also Google isn't reading all your emails...

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But I have nothing to hide!

Why shouldN'T sundar the creep read my email and check my nudes?

[–] ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ultimately, arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.

  • snowden

Mullvad also put together this recently: https://mullvad.net/en/why-privacy-matters/nothing-to-hide

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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Been using their paid email, drive and vpn for the last couple of years and their service has been flawless in my experience. Great apps and never had an outage or issues once.

Free versions are available but the paid version is well worth it.

[–] slooopy_potatoe@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've been with them for a couple of years too and I use all their services (mail, calendar, drive, VPN, pass and simplelogin) but calling it flawless is a bit of an overstatement.

Their outside communication is nonexistent at best, development speed is unbearably slow and Linux support, the most privacy countious user-base?, is lacking a lot.

Hopefully in the next couple years they sinally manage to release contact sync and a Linux client for Drive.

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Is it still viable in 2024 to run a home email server? I used to have a personal Postfix box back in the day.

[–] univers3man@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago

You'd have to be really committed. There's more admin work than you think to make sure you're not insecure or getting blocked.

[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 11 points 5 months ago

I use a cheap VPS to host my email server. It's a bit easier than running it solely at home, but there's a lot of annoying work to "verify" yourself. Once you get your DNS records good, you shouldn't be blocked after that (unlike a home server). It only costs me $5/month plus the domain, which I think is money well spent. Doing the admin work to make sure I'm secure still needs to happen, but I don't mind that work and find it fun.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Gmail and other big providers tend to consider new domains to be spam until they've proven otherwise. Can't prove otherwise until you've been up and running for a while. Catch-22. The way out of that is to host with an existing provider for a few years.

Does it cut down on spam? Perhaps. Does it favor existing providers like Gmail? Yes, definitely.

Honestly, hosting email has long been difficult to setup, and all the more so if you don't want your box to be a spam host within three seconds of plugging it in.

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[–] venoft@lemmy.world 84 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's not even that their results suck, per se, but they straight up ignore most of my search query and focus on one or two words only. Obviously that makes your search results suck.

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[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 69 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is GN going to put Google on a Performance Improvement Plan like they did with Asus?

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Performance Improvement Plan

LOL this is brilliant

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[–] Unlocalhost@lemmy.world 51 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You either die a hero or live and watch yourself turn into a villian.

Tom's hardware, woot, and most recently donut media just to name a few. All were once the place to go, they all were bought out by bigger interest and eventually became the villian.

[–] pelotron@midwest.social 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Donut - how? All the giga-sponsors they take lately?

[–] blackluster117@possumpat.io 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They've been bought by an entertainment parent company, which is why the glut of sponsorships along with their content leaning towards pure entertainment instead of including educational and DIY content. Zach and Jeremiah started their own thing recently and explain in their first video.

[–] pelotron@midwest.social 8 points 5 months ago

I just saw their Big Time video! Glad those guys have the guts to do that.

[–] devilish666@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Google is getting worse everyday and yet we still depends on it everyday

[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's ingrained in many places unfortunately. Like aws and Amazon

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 8 points 5 months ago

Microsoft, apple? netflix etc

facebook... shit i bet everyone in this thread hitting 3/5 min

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[–] Gsus4@programming.dev 15 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Who thinks google will still be a traded company in 10 years?

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 48 points 5 months ago

Yahoo is still around in some form or another.

Alphabet has enough money to persist well after they lose relevance.

[–] JayTreeman@fedia.io 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Too big to fail? Search is only one revenue stream.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago

Similar tactic among all the large tech corpos, switch focus to IaaS, PaaS, SaaS, become the backbone of the modern computing landscape.

It's basically a slow switch to becoming critical international infrastructure like power grids, water ways, and gas/oil pipelines.

This all while locking you in as much as possible and milking as much value as they can squeeze.

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

That'd be advertising, and by a mile.

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[–] eee@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago

I mean IBM is still traded but it's a shadow if it's former self

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[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

It's weird that they don't really address the biggest reason Googles algorithm is worse now. The rampant exploitation of SEO.

Bad actors abuse the system in an attempt to be the first result, regardless of relevancy. It's harder for Google to sift the chaff out than it used to be, because they're flooded with content claiming to be related to the search keys.

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