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I'm feeling so uneasy with everything I've been seeing. I keep thinking about what we will be this time next year, and if shit hits the fan, what is your plan? I'm queer and was politically active in 2020, so I would potentially be considered a political enemy.

The only blueprint I can think of is what you do in an active shooter situation; Flee, Hide, Fight.

I know there's that romantic notion of "don't be a coward, get out and protest", but I remember the brutality of the 2020 protests firsthand, and even then I thought "thank god I'm going toe to toe with the CPD and not the CCP". Next time is going to be different. The president now has authority to send drone strikes. Protests and riots don't stand a chance agains missiles and live rounds.

Flee- I have an Uncle in Montreal who my family could potentially use as a way to at least temporarily escape the chaos. The hope I'd have is that Canada and other countries would accept American refugees, however that's not a guarantee.

Hide- If borders are closed, lay low and move away from major cities if possible. If civil war breaks out, try to get away from the violence even if you think your side will win. Todays losers may be tomorrows victors.

Fight- If cellular data/ social media algorithms can keep track of you, and surveillance can make sure there's no movement, this would be the last resort of desperation. I guess if possible try to either find a group for safety in numbers, or conversely go guerrilla as groups of resistance would make easy targets.

Sorry my mind is running and I'm getting scared.

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[–] hobs@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm headed to Europe. Cheapest country with (potentially) EU passport options is Ukraine. So I'm headed there in July for an "Ugly American European Vacation" to see if I can get in and out Ok. They'll need a lot of help if things go south in the US in November.

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[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Duude, I'm concerned about you, you write this like you're holding onto secrets of state. You need to stop doom scrolling and get some help

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[–] kava@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (12 children)

The same as if Biden wins. I don't think the office of president is going to meaningfully change my life. It did not the last 8 years either.

Either way we're headed to war, economic troubles, radicalism, etc. Biden and Trump are both stepping stones towards the authoritarian state capitalist system we have been cultivating for decades.

People are going to be fine as long as they do what every person in Latin America did under the military dictatorships supported by the US. Shut up, do your job, and don't make waves.

Don't worry, it can't last forever. These systems have a tendency of falling apart eventually. The next manifestation will be better. Just like WW2 had to happen to bring us our post-60s civil rights era society.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 3 months ago

Moving abroad.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I plan to feel sorry for them Americans. But only a little.

[–] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

On the one hand I've been thinking about leaving the country. I really don't think Canada is a safe move. Especially because it's the first thought for so many left wing Americans and it's so close. I also don't think it's inconceivable that a more dictitorual Trump ends up invading Canada...I've been thinking about trying to live in Vietnam myself... I figure if they can keep the USA out then international politics isn't something id have to worry about to much there. They're actual leftists and the money I have here should stretch even farther there to help the transition. I've also tried to talk a few friends into coming along with me if it goes bad we'll see how that works I'm going to try to get 15ish friends to agree hopefully at least a few will follow through.

The other side of my mind thinks that's extreme and doesn't want to leave. That side does think that getting some rice and beans one of those giant rechargeable batteries with solar panels is a good idea though.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

He obviously cannot under any circumstances be allowed to be sworn in.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago

I was thinking of laughing

[–] suction@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I will move to the EU because they will love the influx of US citizens who will show them how to create a working economy, I mean those guys live in the Middle Ages, do they even have running water???

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