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Reddit Admins Deny Subreddit Users the Right to Vote for Further Blackouts (teddit.net)

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Like many other subreddits, r/Finland is allowing its users to vote for whether or not they should a) reopen as normal, b) remain closed, or c) remain in protest mode.

However, the admins just sent them a nastygram essentially saying that's not allowed:

Your community sees well over 2 million unique visitors each month. Allowing a small segment of those users to make a decision for a community forever does not make sense. There are a huge number of people that use this space now and who will in the future

Polling to close is not a viable option that will return a result that resolves this situation

However, mods can also see traffic stats, which show them as closer to 20k uniques per month. My guess is that this is a copy/pasted message and a whole bunch of subreddits are getting this notice.

I thought this was a particularly nasty new development, since up until now the excuse has been that we can't let these Landed Gentry dictate the state of our subreddits, but now they're explicitly saying that they also don't care about how the users of a subreddit vote either.

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[–] DaGuys470@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2 million individual users that had a chance to participate. That's literally how democracy works.

[–] AnonStoleMyPants@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

Lmao right? Everyone gets the voting slip but nobody if forcing you to vote. If you don't then the people who do decide what happens.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is it possible to delete a subreddit easily, just curious if its an option mods have ?

[–] a-man-from-earth@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, mods cannot delete a subreddit. At most they can hide it by going private, or hide existing posts by "deleting" them (which still leaves them in the database and visible to mods and admins).

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for your answer. It makes sense from an admin perspective that some rouge mod can't delete a sub.

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[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Redditors don't have rights. What are you talking about?

[–] falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Allowing a small segment of those users to make a decision for a community forever does not make sense.

That's not how democracy works. If you don't vote, you're compliant to whatever the voters decide.

[–] fupuyifi@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Based on that logic, how do the powers to be at Reddit feel about American Presidential elections?

Whoever is on the team working out all these strategies are just copying rules straight out of an authoritarian Government’s little red playbook.
“You are not allowed to protest!”
“You are only allowed to protest using Government approved methods”

[–] Lells@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

TBF, American Presidential elections are already pretty controlled to guarantee certain outcomes, given how only 2 parties are ever really given any sort of legitimacy by the media. Throw in gerrymandering, and voting fraud, etc.

[–] davysnavy@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think a company has every convinced me this hard to leave their platform. What a bunch of greedy idiots

[–] torafugu@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The way I see it is, when Relay's free version goes, I go. I don't care how many times they fuck up. If the protests don't work, I'm outta there.

[–] hiyaaaaa23@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I have no words left

[–] dandb@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Turns out that owning those means of production is the only way to be sure you don't get kicked out by some snotnosed wannabe dictator.

[–] originalucifer@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

wont someone think of the chil...community!

[–] SeedyOne@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

This has been an incredible lesson on what NOT to do.

[–] slybird@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I have no problem with this. I'm upset with r/chicago mod team for not having opened back up yet. Protest or not, it is an important service to the people that live in Chicago. The mods shouldn't be allowed to take it away just because they don't like Reddit. If they don't like reddit's admins or policies they should remove themselves from the mod team.

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