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Do people actually like all of the overdesigned clutter to the point where it makes them not want to switch sites?

To me, the stripped down clarity on Lemmy is a feature. I remember back in the day when people flocked to Facebook from MySpace, in large part because they were sick of eye gouging customized pages and just wanted a simple, consistent interface. The content, not the buttons to click on it are the draw right?

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[–] Sans_outside@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Just wait till they have to use the reddit app only. Plus if these people want to they can invest there time and run a Lemmy instance. Develop their own tools to make it look the way the want. Rather than complaining about free too hosted freely by people who care.

[–] chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net 4 points 1 year ago

That's also the beauty of Lemmy... they can host an instance of their own, and customize it to their hearts content, while still having access to the broader community's content!

[–] Dvixen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was using Lemmy on my phone via browser, and I darn near swooned at how clean and tidy and useable it was.

[–] TheFence@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed! I was thinking initially that an app would be nice since most websites kind of suck, but this looked great on mobile and I doubt an app is necessary if the clean trend continues.

[–] iByteABit@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm especially annoyed by the way videos are shown on every Lemmy UI, I can't be bothered to click on a link every time there's video content on my feed

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[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think critiques are pretty helpful in the early stages of growth. There's several little UI/UX tweaks we can do to make these places feel more inviting.

Lots of people are listing bug reports or submitting PRs, I've got one going that'll add your profile image next to your name, something simple but nice to have.

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With time these sites are all going to shine :)

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[–] paciencia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Nah I stayed on old reddit because I like that every sub has it's on interface and personality. I used to visit lots of new subs just to see their unique design. Lemmy's interface is very sterile and boring to look at.

[–] TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

In the middle of 2010, "Due to a controversial redesign brought on by Digg, disgruntled users declared a "Quit Digg" day where they posted links to Reddit and left Digg behind to join Reddit. Reddit subsequently overtook Digg in search popularity. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Reddit

Here's what Reddit looked like on August 7, 2010

https://web.archive.org/web/20100807085503/http://www.reddit.com/

This is what Digg looked like on August 7, 2010

https://web.archive.org/web/20100807080410/http://digg.com/

Reddit's had 18 years to tweak the user interface. Lemmy's Initial release was May 5, 2019; 4 years ago. Honestly, I have no issue with Lemmy's interface, but I feel confident in saying that given another 14 years of development, Lemmy will probably not look like it does today.

[–] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can also make it look any way you want b/c it's open source

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[–] webghost0101@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Coming from apollo i could agree it could look alot better but its still miles above the native reddit app.

I don’t quite understand how we cant use kbin style on the rest of lemmy. Or hexbears super nice looking theme which is a fork of lemmy.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly I like it better than old.reddit for some things. Comments are automatically scaled up to a friendly size. I'm not killing my eyes by being too lazy to zoom in anymore ha.

Some of the formatting could use work, but it's hardly a deal breaker.

[–] TitanLaGrange@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I'm over here writing CSS to remove junk (avatar icons, sidebars, etc) from Lemmy pages because it's not text-only enough.

It's cool that others like a fancier view. I want it to be almost nothing but text.

[–] robwaste@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

i agree. the only reason why i hae accounts on shit like this is to prepare for the VERY VERY MINISCULE chance that reddit will shut down due to them making shit decisions.

bring back css for every community

[–] gila@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's FOSS so someone will probably make what they want, if they just give it a sec to appear for free out of thin air then they'll have to come up with another excuse.

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"Do people actually like all of the overdesigned clutter?" Hell nah! Polar opposite here.

I absolutely hate it when sites randomly redesign to look "modern" and "hip" or whatever you want to call it. Forcefully adding flashy, colorful stuff that you can't turn off again or opt out of is a surefire way for me to dislike the site in question immediatly. Emojis, animated smileys, glitter effects, neon-colored letters, autoplay-animations, and worst of all: sound effects! Nope. Nu-uh. Get that sh*t away from me. I like my black-squared, simple layout and silent browsing experience, thank you very much.

[–] Gecko@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Personally I like the custom CSS each subreddit could apply but to each their own I guess.

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[–] heirloomvegtattoo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly dig it, reminds me of the early days of reddit when it was more of a community than an advertising platform. People are just looking for any little thing at this point.

[–] guidedlight@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The basic platforms are more successful. They are faster and less user hostile.

old.reddit.com Hacker News Old Digg Old Fark

[–] sdcSpade@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Ah, a preview of people defending Reddit for removing old.reddit eventually.

[–] gyro@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

i like the dataterm.digital design

[–] WolfhoundRO@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ummm... Servers can customize themselves all they want. It's decentralized FOSS, after all

[–] MarshReaper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish everyone switched to a fully decentralized system. That would be cool to see. I do not know for sure if it would be a bit slower though.

[–] WolfhoundRO@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

In the world of 4 and 5G, 'tis but a scratch in the speed

[–] Double_A@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

They are kinda right though. An appealing design is important for many people. (Except for some reason people involved in opensource and linux stuff... fite me!)

Also a nicer design doesn't mean that it will be cluttered. You're just creating a strawman there.

[–] briefingWizard936@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol. They should've seen how I used to browse Reddit. White text on black background only.

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[–] eating3645@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I don't mind the design, but it's definitely not pretty. Like a pair of Birkenstocks, ugly but effective.

Hopefully once sync is up and running we'll have something both utilitarian and attractive on mobile.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They had me at dark grey and blue

[–] balrog@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't worry. Those are the people that joined Reddit late (in the last few years) and came from other social media platforms (like Facebook). I think Lemmy is safe for a long while at least.

[–] Cap@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Nobody wants to monetize "devoid of style and design"! KISS principle for the win.

[–] Chuck-Shepherd505@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Reddit website is one of the slowest among big corporations, hdare they judge others.

[–] barfplanet@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I like a simple design. Lemmy is simple.

I do think there's opportunity to refine the UI. Doing simple but also beautiful and intuitive isn't easy, and Lemmy isn't all the way there yet. I think there could be benefit from a few really good design nerds working on the design.

[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Are those points meant to be bad things?

Using Kbin, and the default minimalistic design with everything in discrete text-boxes reminds me much more of older forum's than Reddit ever did. I like it!

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